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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.What if the Defense is "horrible" and gives up 30 points a game (each and every game) 16 games of 30 Points each.
What then would be the record of the Pats?
8-8? Better? Worse?
(Matt Cassel's year would have been 9-7)
Ive been saying for a couple of weeks that Brady, now 100%, with the best weapons he has ever have would win 12 games this year win anyones defense.
Ive been saying for a couple of weeks that Brady, now 100%, with the best weapons he has ever have would win 12 games this year win anyones defense.
What if the Defense is "horrible" and gives up 30 points a game (each and every game) 16 games of 30 Points each.
What then would be the record of the Pats?
8-8? Better? Worse?
(Matt Cassel's year would have been 9-7)
Ive been saying for a couple of weeks that Brady, now 100%, with the best weapons he has ever have would win 12 games this year win anyones defense.
I tend to agree with that Andy ... short of having a complete JAG line but even then Tom is on a mission again now that he is healthy. In a league where many rules have been geared towards making it easier to pass we have the best QB who is surounded by multiple weapons.
Gee Beaver, what if our Defense gives up a hundred points in a hundred games. What would that mean?
wtf man????, give it a rest
He did it with a JAG line already...
I count Moss, Maroney, Welker, and Brady as guys who have something to prove that should put a fire in their bellies and a pissed off look on their faces on Sundays.
I tend to agree with that Andy ... short of having a complete JAG line but even then Tom is on a mission again now that he is healthy. In a league where many rules have been geared towards making it easier to pass we have the best QB who is surounded by multiple weapons.
BUT the D needs to at least grow into a competitive if not very good one for the playoff success we want to have.That's why I posted it - The hypothesis is the answer to all the questions of the team's weaknesses. Both Offense and Defense. (By the way I think Special Teams - as in field position - will be a HUGE improvement) If all goes bad - are they still a playoff team.
(Only one team in the last 5 years has given up anywhere near 480 points).
Thank you
I consult on intelligent thought. Seeing the Obvious is what the illiterates have problems with. They spend all their time on dealing with the minutia, and arguing over trivial points.
It is what it is.
Good point, BUT let me point out why this reasoning is flawed.
When your defense is a sieve who can't stop the run or the pass and allows 30 points per game, it is not usually a good thing for the offense. When the defense allows teams to score at will, the offense is forced into a desperate one-dimensional passing game. Likewise, when the offense moves the ball and controls the clock, it helps the defense. When the offense turns the ball over a lot, it obviously hurts the defense.
When you take an example of Matt Cassel's Patriots going 9-7 (since they scored over 30 points in 9 games), that just isn't true. The defense's failure to stop the run and give the ball back to the offense kills momentum and rhythm.
Let's look at those 9 games in 2008 for proof why this argument doesn't work:
Of those 9 games, there was only one game where both teams scored over 30 points, and that was a 34-31 OT loss to the Jets. Let's look at other games where either the Patriots OR their opponent scored over 30 that year....
Miami 38, New England 13 (the wildcat game). Perfect example of why a good offense is rendered useless when the defense collapses.
New England 30, San Francisco 21 (I took my wife on our first date to this game.) Let's put it this way, had the Patriots scored 21 points, and played like the Niners on offense, it would have been 30-21 the other way.
San Diego 30, New England 10. Once again, you see what always happens. Chargers burned our defense, and Patriots went into desperation passing mode. Downward cycle that just gets worse.
New England 41, Denver 7. Obviously Denver's offense was capable of scoring over 7 points. Here's another good point: usually when offenses turn the ball over numerous times, that's why teams get over 30 to begin with.
There are several other games, but why beat a dead horse? Obviously the offense and defense are tied together and effect each other. In the NFL, you see a lot of teams capable of scoring 30- may even do it 10 or more times during the season- but if they allow 30 in any given game, they are probably not going to win.
When one teams scores a lot of points, you much more often see a blowout. Sure, there are some exciting 36-33 games out there, but they are statistically very rare.
You bring up an idiotic premise.. what did you expect? Intelligent answers?