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SMY: Moss, Burgess, Guyton, and Thomas sent home Wed after late for 8am meeting


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I really don't like the sound of this at all! If this team does not get their act together and play some solid football for an entire 60 mins on Sunday against the Panthers, then they can just forget it.
 
Maybe the weather was a gift that provided a way to send a message while maintaining just a hint of cover... :D

It's a fine line... without the veteran leadership....I fear a bit of a mutiny.
 
Doesn't Moss usually get Wed. off anyway?
 
It's a fine line... without the veteran leadership....I fear a bit of a mutiny.


What was it FDR used to say, the only thing to fear is fear itself. Players inclined to mutiny have no place on the good ship Belichick. Sink or swim time and if they weren't inclined to step up or be real leaders either way, which the post game comments or lack thereof seem to underscore, what difference does it make.
 
In Thomas' case, I think that ice has already begun to crack. In Moss' case, that's pretty much his entire career.

Just further proves Brady and the other vets weren't kidding when they talked (or didn't) about this team needing to fight harder and work harder.

This makes me think about whether BB might have risked too much when he released or did not welcome back too many professional veterans (Vrabel, Rodney, Bruschi, etc) who would have kept the team in line, especially Bruschi.
 
If I recall correctly Terry Glenn (their leading receiver) had his ***** sat down for the season for his crap the year they won their first Super Bowl, so if attitude is the problem do what you have to Bill:enranged:
 
This makes me think about whether BB might have risked too much when he released or did not welcome back too many professional veterans (Vrabel, Rodney, Bruschi, etc) who would have kept the team in line, especially Bruschi.

None of those guys could play anymore, that's why they're no longer Patriots.

I like this news, it's communicating a sense of urgency to the team.
 
This makes me think about whether BB might have risked too much when he released or did not welcome back too many professional veterans (Vrabel, Rodney, Bruschi, etc) who would have kept the team in line, especially Bruschi.

Bruschi and Harrison retired of their own accord. And this season he's had too many vets sitting on the sidelines as inactives as it is. Vrabel hasn't exactly been setting a leadership tone in KC, either. Some guys age gracefully while others grow bitter and selfish.
 
If these guys were sent home for being late today, its bordering on the silly side. With the snow and traffic, sometimes its unavoidable to be a bit late.

I don't agree, how come the rest were all there except these four? This is how I run my organization and it has not failed me. If lets say 50% were late, then I will consider, anything short is just lackadaisical to me.
 
Well..this is not a good sign in some ways..he's serious..and that is what is needed now..although with traffic and such..who might NOT be late?? Bad timing for snow and being late..
 
I can certainly visualize Adalius Thomas reacting so positively to this snub. Good that he has some company.

Wonder how they are taking it. I fear that this is a bad time to crack the whip on issues like this. But what heck do I know on motivation or team play??

Pity the guys. Looks like this was beyond their control.
 
although with traffic and such..who might NOT be late?? Bad timing for snow and being late..
It's easy for me to say, living where we get no rain nor snow, but there's 53 players + practice squad, rehabbers, coaches, etc, and all but 4 of them, evidently, got there on time.

So . . .
 
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Yes...................

Me too.......

If you have to do it though, I do like that it's 4, and surprisingly that Moss is included. By having Moss included, it shows no favorites. Those other clowns are already disappointing the team with their play. It didn't bat an eye when AD was sat earlier this year. No hiding the fact that Bill sent on of his "respected" players home too. No one gets a pass.
 
Bruschi and Harrison retired of their own accord. And this season he's had too many vets sitting on the sidelines as inactives as it is. Vrabel hasn't exactly been setting a leadership tone in KC, either. Some guys age gracefully while others grow bitter and selfish.

Bruschi and Harrison did not retire of their own accord. Harrison spoke about it. I can't remember the exact quote, but he said something about getting put out to pasture before he wanted to, but had to accept it.
 
The more I read about this and who was sent home the less I believe it has anything to do with the weather, other than Guyton who I am not aware there has been issues with the rest could certainly be pegged as having some motivational issues lately, and yes I am aware of Randy's season stats but it just seems that the fight and fire that was there has been absent of late.
 
It's easy for me to say, living where we get no rain nor snow, but there's 53 players + practice squad, rehabbers, coaches, etc, and all but 4 of them, evidently, got there on time.

So . . .

That, and we've known for a few days now that this weather was coming. I'm sure the Pats organization did too, and I imagine even sent out a notice or something: No excuses, leave early and prepare for the worst.
 
I have to agree, with you here. I'm all for cracking the whip, but the weather was terrible today kind of a lame way to make an example of people.

It took me 2 hours to get to work today.
 
This is sending a message to people. It say that show up and play or stay your a%& at home.
 
Of course, when asked, Belichick said "No comment."
 
To reinforce my point:

This defense needs attitude adjustment - The Boston Globe

“I’m not saying we don’t have leadership here,’’ said fourth-year tailback Laurence Maroney, “but you knew in times like this, Rodney was going to say something, Bruschi would say something, Vrabel would definitely talk and say something.

“We have a lot of leaders now that are leaders by example. And don’t get me wrong, a lot of young guys like myself like that leadership by example, because you don’t need all the hoo-rah all the time, but that vocal leadership helps out, too.’’
 
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