Maroney is more of a disappointment than a BUST

[JackBauer]

Maroney could drop off the face of the earth and the Patriots would not miss a beat...........He may not deserve all the criticism, but going to lengths to defend such an insignificant player seems ridiculous.



Listing a group of sucky players in Maroney's draft class is pointless. He's just another in a rather larger group of DISAPPOINTMENTS.

That's just patently absurd. If he dropped off the face of the planet, that would leave BJGE and Faulk as our only healthy runningbacks.

BB obviously evaluates him much differently than the Short Bus contingent here at PatsFans. That's good enough for me.

 

[JackBauer]

probably already stated but, hindsight is quite possibly the dumbest thing to use for a past draft. Regardless of whether the Pats picked him or not, I still think Maroney would have been drafted higher than those backs that came after him.

plus I think that it is pretty well known that since his rookie season, Addai hasnt produced much as well.

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[BrownNServe]

Maroney could drop off the face of the earth and the Patriots would not miss a beat...........He may not deserve all the criticism, but going to lengths to defend such an insignificant player seems ridiculous.


Ill ignore this comment because I'm assuming you forgot about the current lack of depth at RB on the team.

 

[Gwedd]

You guys DID read this quote from Coach regarding Maroney, right?

Late in this interview, they asked Belichick, basically, don’t you get frustrated with Maroney?
His answer? Not really.

“Well, every player can improve, but Laurence has done a pretty good job running the ball for us,” Belichick said. “I really don’t have a lot of problems with Laurence. What I’d like to see is for us to open bigger holes to create some space for these guys and allow them to run. … He can do a better job, but we can block better, and hopefully design more plays to get some space and get some yards.”

If Belichick has no real problems with Maroney, than I really haven't any patience for some knucklehead on a fan board who views Maroney as a "dissappointment",

This thread really DOES deserve 1-star. Too bad we can't rate threads lower than that.

Actually, as someone commented earlier, could we please have a special section to put all the "Maroney is made of glass" threads into? Then give everyone who posts there a 1-week suspension from commenting?

 

[zeke mowatt]

Maroney could drop off the face of the earth and the Patriots would not miss a beat...........He may not deserve all the criticism, but going to lengths to defend such an insignificant player seems ridiculous.


Ill ignore this comment because I'm assuming you forgot about the current lack of depth at RB on the team.

A lack of depth Maroney has been contributing to since he got here...........

 

[JackBauer]

A lack of depth Maroney has been contributing to since he got here...........

Oh, really? Please, do go on.

 

[zeke mowatt]

Well Jack, in case you did'nt notice, Maroney has had a habit of missing significant time in his professional carreer............like i stated earlier, sometimes it's tough to notice due to the fact the pats have dusted off several worn out vets who replaced him adeqately.



Why you get so worked up about this cat is beyond me.

 

[Synovia]

...........like i stated earlier, sometimes it's tough to notice due to the fact the pats have dusted off several worn out vets who replaced him adeqately.

Like Whom?

Pretty much all of those vets have had worse performance than Maroney (and that includes morris, jordan, etc)

 

[zeke mowatt]

I can't believe i'm being sucked into this, but anyway.

Morris rushed for like 750 yards, 7 or eight TDs in '08

Maroney's best season was 07'. 835 yds and 6 TDs.



I don't know, seems to me the pats did'nt fall off much without him.

I don't hate maroney or think he's a bust, but fans being disappointed in him seem justified.

 

[Synovia]

Morris rushed for like 750 yards, 7 or eight TDs in '08

Maroney's best season was 07'. 835 yds and 6 TDs.

The same Morris who carries for less YPC, fumbles 5 times as often, and can't block? That guy?

 

[zeke mowatt]

The same Morris who carries for less YPC, fumbles 5 times as often, and can't block? That guy?

Yeah, that guy. Similar production.

I the three games Maroney played, he managed 93 yds and no scores........That good enough for ya?

 

[BradyFTW!]

Hasn't Ernie Sims been considered a disappointment in Detriot, as well? I wouldn't know, since I couldn't care less about the Lions, but I think I remember rumblings to that effect. On the flip side, I think Vernon Davis has begun to pick it up.

Yeah, pretty much, but whereas Maroney is one of the few actual 'issues' that Pats fans can find to gripe about, Sims is just one out of well over a dozen positions where the Lions truly pretty much suck. Everyone shares the blame because they're all terrible.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Maroney could drop off the face of the earth and the Patriots would not miss a beat...........He may not deserve all the criticism, but going to lengths to defend such an insignificant player seems ridiculous.



Listing a group of sucky players in Maroney's draft class is pointless. He's just another in a rather larger group of DISAPPOINTMENTS.

Man, right up until that post you were doing alright, but really? BJGE is not a good RB. We saw it last year, and we see it again this year. So far this year, almost 30% of his carries don't even make it past the line of scrimmage.

Yeah, that guy. Similar production.

I the three games Maroney played, he managed 93 yds and no scores........That good enough for ya?

Morris' production isn't even close to Maroney's. Sorry, but if you think that, then it's pretty obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. Like every other Maroney-basher on this board, you're a basic example of confirmation bias at work. Morris is significantly worse than Maroney in almost every way.

 

[zeke mowatt]

Man, right up until that post you were doing alright, but really? BJGE is not a good RB. We saw it last year, and we see it again this year. So far this year, almost 30% of his carries don't even make it past the line of scrimmage.

I don't see the man of many names mentioned in the quote...........

 

[zeke mowatt]

Man, right up until that post you were doing alright, but really? BJGE is not a good RB. We saw it last year, and we see it again this year. So far this year, almost 30% of his carries don't even make it past the line of scrimmage.



Morris' production isn't even close to Maroney's. Sorry, but if you think that, then it's pretty obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about. Like every other Maroney-basher on this board, you're a basic example of confirmation bias at work. Morris is significantly worse than Maroney in almost every way.

I'm no Maroney basher. as I've stated repeatedly.

How can a dude whos rushing production almost mirrors Maroney's be considerably worse?

Replacing what Maroney brings is not much of a feat. I guess is my point. He's ok. So are lots of other guys.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I don't see the man of many names mentioned in the quote...........

Well BJGE and Faulk would be the only backs on the roster if Maroney "fell of the face of the earth", and Faulk has a very strictly defined role outside of the rest of the RB rotation. So yeah, it doesn't exactly take a brain surgeon to determine who would be carrying the load if Maroney was gone.

Or are you saying that you didn't even about it to that level? Because that's pretty weak in its own right, if that's the case.

 

[BradyFTW!]

How can a dude whos rushing production almost mirrors Maroney's be considerably worse?

Because his production doesn't almost mirror Maroney's. We've been over this already- Synovia pretty aptly described it.

 

[zeke mowatt]

Because his production doesn't almost mirror Maroney's. We've been over this already- Synovia pretty aptly described it.

your full of *****. I posted the numbers. show me a significant difference in production. It does'nt exist.

 

[zeke mowatt]

Well BJGE and Faulk would be the only backs on the roster if Maroney "fell of the face of the earth", and Faulk has a very strictly defined role outside of the rest of the RB rotation. So yeah, it doesn't exactly take a brain surgeon to determine who would be carrying the load if Maroney was gone.

Or are you saying that you didn't even about it to that level? Because that's pretty weak in its own right, if that's the case.

Not neccessarily speaking on the pats current RB situation. More or less saying Maroney was replaced adequately in the past....and could be again. He's just not that good dude................I don't see why that bothers you so much.

 

[BradyFTW!]

your full of *****. I posted the numbers. show me a significant difference in production. It does'nt exist.

Maroney= 4.3 YPC. Morris = 3.6 YPC.
Maroney out-carried Morris in 3 out of the 4 games where they were both healthy.
Morris fumbles, Maroney doesn't.

Admittedly, if you take their production over the past three years, they come out looking very similar, in terms of games played, total carries, and yardage (Morris is actually a little ahead, although I expect that to change shortly).

That said, IMO that has a lot to do with Morris having the benefit of being a true feature weapon of an offense, with Brady out. I wish Maroney had stayed healthy for at least some of 2008, because the perception of him would have changed drastically.

I'll cede the point, though, that statistically the matchup is very close in many ways.