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Does it really matter if he get's his sacks due to effort? You can teach moves and refine those though work in practice. And I understand though reading that he is a hard worker and a quick study. The effort part is what cannot be taught.
Yes it does matter, if you're absolutely certain an improved pass rush is needed.

I have Michael Johnson as a 3rd round value too, he's more athletic than Kruger with a higher upside, the issue with him is his not playing up to his potential. Yes, I'd prefer to draft Kruger ahead of Johnson.
 
Yes it does matter, if you're absolutely certain an improved pass rush is needed.

I have Michael Johnson as a 3rd round value too, he's more athletic than Kruger with a higher upside, the issue with him is his not playing up to his potential. Yes, I'd prefer to draft Kruger ahead of Johnson.

A guy who can give us what Vrabs has given us is needed for the future. Kruger reminds me a lot of him and might be groomed to be that replacement.

Let's not forget, the draft is a big crap shoot anyway. Many certain stars end up being bust and many "reaches" end up being stars.


Johnson, IMO, will be better suited as a DE in a 4-3.
 
A guy who can give us what Vrabs has given us is needed for the future. Kruger reminds me a lot of him and might be groomed to be that replacement.

Let's not forget, the draft is a big crap shoot anyway. Many certain stars end up being bust and many "reaches" end up being stars.


Johnson, IMO, will be better suited as a DE in a 4-3.
So who's expecting the Pats to draft Johnson? It's nice that you like Kruger, and if he gets drafted by NE I'm sure he'll work out well here, he's competitive with players ahead of him on my board:

Barwin 11 sacks, 7 PD, 7 QBH, 3 BK, 15.5 TFL
Sintim 13 sacks, 3 PD, 5 FF, 4 QBH, 12.5 TFL
English 8 sacks, 1 PD, 2 QBH, 3 FF, 14.5 TFL
Cody Brown 11 sacks, 8 PD, 5 FF, 1 BK, 16.5 TFL
Kruger had 7.5 sacks, 7 PD, 1 QBH, 2 FF, 16.5 TFL.
 
So who's expecting the Pats to draft Johnson? It's nice that you like Kruger, and if he gets drafted by NE I'm sure he'll work out well here, he's competitive with players ahead of him on my board:

Barwin 11 sacks, 7 PD, 7 QBH, 3 BK, 15.5 TFL
Sintim 13 sacks, 3 PD, 5 FF, 4 QBH, 12.5 TFL
English 8 sacks, 1 PD, 2 QBH, 3 FF, 14.5 TFL
Cody Brown 11 sacks, 8 PD, 5 FF, 1 BK, 16.5 TFL
Kruger had 7.5 sacks, 7 PD, 1 QBH, 2 FF, 16.5 TFL.

The guy I really like if the Pats look at picking up a DE/OLB hybrid type is next to last on that list, Cody Brown. I really like the players Connecticut is putting out in this draft in general, with Butler being a CB I'm high on, Brown looking like a solid running back and Beatty looking like the best OT outside of that elite top four group.
 
The guy I really like if the Pats look at picking up a DE/OLB hybrid type is next to last on that list, Cody Brown. I really like the players Connecticut is putting out in this draft in general, with Butler being a CB I'm high on, Brown looking like a solid running back and Beatty looking like the best OT outside of that elite top four group.
If NE went with Barwin and Brown I'd be pretty happy, though I'd rather have Sintim and Barwin.
 
Matt Cassel Trade To Detroit for 20th + 2010 future compensation

TRADE: 47th Pick (430 pts.) + 89th Pick (145 pts.) Traded to K.C. for 34th Pick (560 pts.) + Pick 195 (14 pts.)

TRADE: 2010 3rd Round + 2009 6th (192) to Carolina for 93rd Pick

1.T- #20 WR PERCY HARVIN (22)

I'm not a fan of taking offense here, but he is a rare player, and potentially the biggest offensive/ special teamer game changer in this draft. There isnt enough value at corner, plus the Patriots are hell bent on finding diamonds in the rough at corner.

By the way, with Percy, there is no doubt that the Patriots offense will be absolutely unstopable, plus another reason to get rid of Hobbs in 2010 because of Harvin's return ability.

1.1- #23 OLB/ILB CLAY MATTHEWS (27)

Non-stop motor with potential that is untapped. Will not start immediately, but will sub for both Vrable and Thomas. Extremely quick and with improved technique could be a potential BEAST, and better than all the USC linebackers.

2.T- #34 (KC) OT WILLIAM BEATTY (34)

Can start immediately at RT. Instant upgrade over Kazur and a potential to take over at LT once Light is gone.

2.2- #47 (SD) Traded to KC

3.2- #58 CB MIKE MICKENS (72)

Should be a first rounder, knee injury with 2 games will slide him down to the second. Has the potential to be the best CB in this draft. PLAYMAKER. Decent straight line speed with good experience in Man and Zone. Pretty good tackler for a corner.

4.3- #83 (Comp PHI) S/OLB NIC HARRIS (105)

At one time a potential first rounder. At the senior bowl he played OLB. There is no reason for that. He is a natural leader and plays with emotion. Good hands and hits well. Could be great in the Patriots system of a SS, and play near the line. Room to bulk up on his frame to become a real big hitter. SMART player, and decent in coverage with average speed.

5.3- #89 Traded to KC

6.3- #93 (CAR) TE CORNELIUS INGRAM (96)

Would have been the first TE taken this year if he didnt suffer a torn ACL and missing his senior season with the gators. Not an ideal blocker, but good hands and finds holes in the defense well. If healthy during the combine, his stock could rise.

7.4- #124 RB GLEN COFFEE (133)

Forget BJGE, Glen Coffee is a steal. Replaces Jordan and great change of pace back behind Morris and Maroney. Physical and doesnt put the ball on the ground often. Deceptive speed.

8.5- #158 OT ALEX BOONE (166)

Once a first round prospect. Has ideal size and his fall from grace might make him play harder than anyone had anticipated. Room to bulk up on his frame. He may be the next great late round lineman, but also might just end up being an average sub.

9.6- #192 Traded to Carolina

10.7- #195 (KC) OLB LEE ROBINSON (201)

Guy from a school called Alcorn State. He is a physical freak that looks like tarzan, 6'2 250. He tracks down and tackles very well. Could be a replacement for one of the edge rushers in a few years. His stock might rise to high in order for the pats to get him down here. Kinda like Adalius Thomas, who was also drafted in the 6th round.

10.7- #230 OG LOUIS VASQUEZ (256)

He might be a steal in the pats offense, after playing behind the pass happy Texas Tech team. With a little work could replace Stephen Neal.
 
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Matt Cassel Trade To Detroit for 20th + 2010 future compensation

TRADE: 47th Pick (430 pts.) + 89th Pick (145 pts.) Traded to K.C. for 34th Pick (560 pts.) + Pick 195 (14 pts.)

TRADE: 2010 3rd Round + 2009 6th (192) to Carolina for 93rd Pick

1.T- #20 WR PERCY HARVIN (22)

I'm not a fan of taking offense here, but he is a rare player, and potentially the biggest offensive/ special teamer game changer in this draft. There isnt enough value at corner, plus the Patriots are hell bent on finding diamonds in the rough at corner.

By the way, with Percy, there is no doubt that the Patriots offense will be absolutely unstopable, plus another reason to get rid of Hobbs in 2010 because of Harvin's return ability.

1.1- #23 OLB/ILB CLAY MATTHEWS (27)

Non-stop motor with potential that is untapped. Will not start immediately, but will sub for both Vrable and Thomas. Extremely quick and with improved technique could be a potential BEAST, and better than all the USC linebackers.

2.T- #34 (KC) OT WILLIAM BEATTY (34)

Can start immediately at RT. Instant upgrade over Kazur and a potential to take over at LT once Light is gone.

2.2- #47 (SD) Traded to KC

3.2- #58 CB MIKE MICKENS (72)

Should be a first rounder, knee injury with 2 games will slide him down to the second. Has the potential to be the best CB in this draft. PLAYMAKER. Decent straight line speed with good experience in Man and Zone. Pretty good tackler for a corner.

4.3- #83 (Comp PHI) S/OLB NIC HARRIS (105)

At one time a potential first rounder. At the senior bowl he played OLB. There is no reason for that. He is a natural leader and plays with emotion. Good hands and hits well. Could be great in the Patriots system of a SS, and play near the line. Room to bulk up on his frame to become a real big hitter. SMART player, and decent in coverage with average speed.

5.3- #89 Traded to KC

6.3- #93 (CAR) TE CORNELIUS INGRAM (96)

Would have been the first TE taken this year if he didnt suffer a torn ACL and missing his senior season with the gators. Not an ideal blocker, but good hands and finds holes in the defense well. If healthy during the combine, his stock could rise.

7.4- #124 RB GLEN COFFEE (133)

Forget BJGE, Glen Coffee is a steal. Replaces Jordan and great change of pace back behind Morris and Maroney. Physical and doesnt put the ball on the ground often. Deceptive speed.

8.5- #158 OT ALEX BOONE (166)

Once a first round prospect. Has ideal size and his fall from grace might make him play harder than anyone had anticipated. Room to bulk up on his frame. He may be the next great late round lineman, but also might just end up being an average sub.

9.6- #192 Traded to Carolina

10.7- #195 (KC) OLB LEE ROBINSON (201)

Guy from a school called Alcorn State. He is a physical freak that looks like tarzan, 6'2 250. He tracks down and tackles very well. Could be a replacement for one of the edge rushers in a few years. His stock might rise to high in order for the pats to get him down here. Kinda like Adalius Thomas, who was also drafted in the 6th round.

10.7- #230 OG LOUIS VASQUEZ (256)

He might be a steal in the pats offense, after playing behind the pass happy Texas Tech team. With a little work could replace Stephen Neal.

You didn't follow the rules of the thread.
1) Alex Boone just got arrested again. His stock is falling and there was talk of revoking his invitation to the combine.

2) There clearly was a good reason for Nic Harris playing OLB. Its because the scouts didn't feel he had what it took to be back at safety.

3) Prior top the start of this season, I'd not heard Ingram's name mentioned as a potential first rounder. Also, a lot will be determined by whether or not he gets checked out at the combine or by team physicians. Also, why would the Pats bring in ANOTHER TE who has problems blocking?

4) Percy Harvin has NOT returned a kick or a punt in his college career. Its pure speculation that he'd be able to do so in the NFL. PURE speculation. At least with guys like Devin Hester, he'd been returning kicks and punts in college. And why would the Patriots want to get rid of one of the best kick returners in the league in Hobbs? Your thinking makes no sense at all.
 
You didn't follow the rules of the thread.
1) Alex Boone just got arrested again. His stock is falling and there was talk of revoking his invitation to the combine.

2) There clearly was a good reason for Nic Harris playing OLB. Its because the scouts didn't feel he had what it took to be back at safety.

3) Prior top the start of this season, I'd not heard Ingram's name mentioned as a potential first rounder. Also, a lot will be determined by whether or not he gets checked out at the combine or by team physicians. Also, why would the Pats bring in ANOTHER TE who has problems blocking?

4) Percy Harvin has NOT returned a kick or a punt in his college career. Its pure speculation that he'd be able to do so in the NFL. PURE speculation. At least with guys like Devin Hester, he'd been returning kicks and punts in college. And why would the Patriots want to get rid of one of the best kick returners in the league in Hobbs? Your thinking makes no sense at all.


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1. Alex Boone did just get arrested. Correct. Is it not possible for a team to take a chance on him. I mean he has talent, and is a film rat. Personally if his stock continues to drop the more excited i become at the possibility of getting him for a minimum.

2. First off Nic Harris is damn good at safety. The fact that they had him at linebacker at the Senior Bowl made me mad. He is one of those perfect hybrid guys with pretty average speed. If he bulks up a little who do you think he might play like, especially near the line....perhaps Harrison. Not to mention he is a natural leader.

3. You must crazy to not think that Ingram did not have elite status before the season. He would have been taken on the first day had he came out as a junior. And secondly, Ben Watson is a good blocker, he has improved miles beyond what I expected, not to mention David Thomas can hold his own on the line. A good pass catching tight end, that can improve at blocking is a great idea to me with Watson's contract running out.


4. PERCY HARVIN does not need to return punts in order to be an absolute boost, and the most explosive player in the draft. You are right about the speculation, but give him a shot in open space and see what happens. By the way, hobbs is done in NE after this season, contract expires. Not to mention why do we want a guy who has trouble covering anyways. Isnt that why they drafted Slater last year anyway, referring to returning.

I MAY NOT HAVE FOLLOWED THE EXACT RULES, but the fact that you would argue with my picks is stupid. I thought we were all entitled to our opinion. Besides, its better to draft by value, not by need. Just ask BB. Good Day sir.
 
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It's so much easier to draft when you know who will be available at each and every pick. Ratings have changed since some of you made your picks.

23 - Eben Britton OT Arizona
47 - Coye Francies CB San Jose State
58 - Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose State
89 - Cornelius Ingram TE Florida
120 - Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly
151 - Otis Wiley S Michigan State
186 - Cecil Newton C/G Tennessee State
217 - Khalif Mitchell DE East Carolina

I really struggled between Britton and Beatty at no.23. I like the upside of Beatty as a pure LT, but Britton has a longer track record of success and seems like the safer pick at no.23. I'd trade down if I could if the draft goes according to the current list. Really happy with Francies and Gilbert in round 2 as I think both have very high upsides. Ingram is a gamble in round 3 coming off injury, so it was a tough call between him and Shawn Nelson here. Barden will either be one of the best WR's in this class or be a bust who's unable to separate at the NFL level. I really like Wiley at safety right now, and I think he probably could be had later than he's projected on this chart. Newton dominated on the lower level according to Draft Scout and Mitchell is a 3/4 prospect and even though I drafted Gilbert I couldn't pass up getting another DE in round 7.
 
As someone who gets most of his "info" on college players from this board, FWIW:

1.1- #23 Alphonso Smith, CB*
2.2- #47 Connor Barwin, OLB/TE
3.2- #58 Louis Delmas, S
4.3- #89 Cornelius Ingram, TE
5.3- #97 Antoine Caldwell, C/G
6.4- #124 Kevin Ellison, S
7.4- #136 Sammie Lee Hill, DT
8.5- #158 Ryan Purvis, TE
9.5- #167 Quinn Johnson, FB
10.6- #192 Jasper Brinkley, ILB
11.7- #230 Darryl Richard, DT/DE

*Would also be happy with Sean Smith @23 IF the team believes he can actually play corner. If the floor is Tebucky Jones, but the ceiling is Ty Law, I'd roll the dice on him.
 
Trades:

- Matt Cassel and 2(47) traded to KC for 1(3) and 2(34)
- 1(3) traded to Cleveland for 1(5) and 2010 2nd round pick. Cleveland gives up a pick to move up and get Aaron Curry.
- Trade 3(89) + 4(122) for 3(78).

1(5) BJ Raji, DT, Boston College (6). Curry is great, but is probably an ILB in the Pats 3-4, and #3 is just too much to spend. Pats move back and get a beast DT as insurance for Wilfork/Seymour leaving after 2009, and to complement them on the DL. Seymour-Wilfork-Raji-Green would be an amazing line. Raji could also play some DE similar to Haloti Ngata.

2(34) Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah (35). Would also seriously consider William Beatty (34) here, but the secondary is a bigger need. Smith has great athletic upside and versatility. A slight trade up for Clay Matthews (27) would also be an option.

2(58) Connor Barwin, DE/LB, Cincinnati (63). Athletic, versatile, intelligent player in the mold of Mike Vrabel who could probably play either inside or outside at LB, and some TE in the red zone as well. Louis Delmas (64) would also get strong consideration here if we went with Beatty or Matthews (with a trade up) instead of Smith at #34.

3(78) Eric Wood, C/G, Louisville (78). Tough, versatile player who could upgrade Koppen and back up the interior line. Jason Watkins, OT, Florida (86) would also be an option. Athletic former TE Could also go for Cody Brown (87) at this pick if we thought that either he or Barwin could move inside to SILB, with the other at OLB.

3(97) Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati (102). Nasty interior lineman to backup and eventually replace Stephen Neal, or insurance if we can't resign Mankins.

4(135) Sammie Lee Hill, DT, Spillman (150). Versatile huge guy who can play DT or DE. Even with Raji in the 1st, Hill would still provide great value and versatility on the DL.

5(158) Devin Moore, RB, Wyoming (181). Versatile all-purpose player in the mold of Darrin Sproles. Eventual replacement for Kevin Fault.

5(167) Kevin Huber, P, Cincinnati (182). Accurate kicker with great hang time and ability to pin opponents inside their 20.
 
1.1- #23 - Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forrest (28)
2.2- #47 - Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose State (59)
3.2- #58 - William Moore S Missouri (61)
4.3- #89 - Antoine Caldwell C Alabama (97)
5.3- #97 - Shawn Nelson TE Southern Mississippi (110)
6.4- #124 - Cornelius Lewis OT Tennessee State (136)
7.4- #136 - Frantz Joseph LB Florida Atlantic (155)
8.5- #158 - Bruce Johnson CB Miami (167)
9.5- #167 - Brooks Foster WR North Carolina (180)
10.6- #192 - Roy Miller DT Texas (292)
11.7- #230 - Antonio Appleby LB Virginia (259)
 
Trades:

- Matt Cassel and 2(47) traded to KC for 1(3) and 2(34)

Sorry but that trade is just completely unrealistic.

The #3 pick is worth 2200 alone. Add another 560 with the 34th pick and you've got well over 2700 points to make up. Might as well make it Cassel for the #3 pick straight up! :rolleyes:
 
Everyone please keep in mind that this is intended to be a fun exercise. We will do it again in March, maybe we will know exactly where Matt has been traded by that time and what we got.

We will also do it again in mid April when we know the comp picks and have more info on players. Then the blood bath can really take place.:cool:
 
Trades:

- Matt Cassel and 2(47) traded to KC for 1(3) and 2(34)
- 1(3) traded to Cleveland for 1(5) and 2010 2nd round pick. Cleveland gives up a pick to move up and get Aaron Curry.
- Trade 3(89) + 4(122) for 3(78).

1(5) BJ Raji, DT, Boston College (6). Curry is great, but is probably an ILB in the Pats 3-4, and #3 is just too much to spend. Pats move back and get a beast DT as insurance for Wilfork/Seymour leaving after 2009, and to complement them on the DL. Seymour-Wilfork-Raji-Green would be an amazing line. Raji could also play some DE similar to Haloti Ngata.

2(34) Sean Smith, CB/S, Utah (35). Would also seriously consider William Beatty (34) here, but the secondary is a bigger need. Smith has great athletic upside and versatility. A slight trade up for Clay Matthews (27) would also be an option.

2(58) Connor Barwin, DE/LB, Cincinnati (63). Athletic, versatile, intelligent player in the mold of Mike Vrabel who could probably play either inside or outside at LB, and some TE in the red zone as well. Louis Delmas (64) would also get strong consideration here if we went with Beatty or Matthews (with a trade up) instead of Smith at #34.

3(78) Eric Wood, C/G, Louisville (78). Tough, versatile player who could upgrade Koppen and back up the interior line. Jason Watkins, OT, Florida (86) would also be an option. Athletic former TE Could also go for Cody Brown (87) at this pick if we thought that either he or Barwin could move inside to SILB, with the other at OLB.

3(97) Trevor Canfield, OG, Cincinnati (102). Nasty interior lineman to backup and eventually replace Stephen Neal, or insurance if we can't resign Mankins.

4(135) Sammie Lee Hill, DT, Spillman (150). Versatile huge guy who can play DT or DE. Even with Raji in the 1st, Hill would still provide great value and versatility on the DL.

5(158) Devin Moore, RB, Wyoming (181). Versatile all-purpose player in the mold of Darrin Sproles. Eventual replacement for Kevin Fault.

5(167) Kevin Huber, P, Cincinnati (182). Accurate kicker with great hang time and ability to pin opponents inside their 20.

Mayo good write up.

Two things:

1)If we picked Raja at #5 would you be inclined to not resign Wright?

2) I had Devin Moore as a 2-3 round prospect with the success of Chris Johnson last season who also is a burner from a non BCS school.
 
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1. Alex Boone did just get arrested. Correct. Is it not possible for a team to take a chance on him. I mean he has talent, and is a film rat. Personally if his stock continues to drop the more excited i become at the possibility of getting him for a minimum. Not the Patriots. In fact, they've have a history of staying away from picks and cutting players with law trouble. Christian Peters, Willie Andrews, Kenyatta Jones.

2. First off Nic Harris is damn good at safety. The fact that they had him at linebacker at the Senior Bowl made me mad. He is one of those perfect hybrid guys with pretty average speed. If he bulks up a little who do you think he might play like, especially near the line....perhaps Harrison. Not to mention he is a natural leader. So it made you mad. SO WHAT. The scouts and NFL teams don't. They see Harris as a LB. And no, I don't see Nic Harris being able to hold Rodney Harrison's jock. Never mind being a Harrison clone.

3. You must crazy to not think that Ingram did not have elite status before the season. He would have been taken on the first day had he came out as a junior. And secondly, Ben Watson is a good blocker, he has improved miles beyond what I expected, not to mention David Thomas can hold his own on the line. A good pass catching tight end, that can improve at blocking is a great idea to me with Watson's contract running out. Crazy? No. Ingram wasn't rated with ELITE status. Sorry to burst your bubble. Watson is an above average blocker. Thomas is mediocre. Ingram falls into the same category as those two and doesn't address the need the Pats have at TE. Which is a better blocker.


4. PERCY HARVIN does not need to return punts in order to be an absolute boost, and the most explosive player in the draft. You are right about the speculation, but give him a shot in open space and see what happens. By the way, hobbs is done in NE after this season, contract expires. Not to mention why do we want a guy who has trouble covering anyways. Isnt that why they drafted Slater last year anyway, referring to returning.

First off, you claimed that he would help on returns. That's an area that he's NEVER performed at. So you are making it up. Secondly, why would Hobbs be done after this season? The Pats love him. Or haven't you noticed? As for Slater, he was drafted for his versatility on special teams. Not just because he could be a reserve returner.

I MAY NOT HAVE FOLLOWED THE EXACT RULES, but the fact that you would argue with my picks is stupid. I thought we were all entitled to our opinion. Besides, its better to draft by value, not by need. Just ask BB. Good Day sir.

Who said anything about you not being entitled to your opinions? If you are going to pull out the "I'm entitled to my opinions" card, you should remember that I am entitled to mine as well. You weren't insulted in any way. You weren't called dumb, stupid, ignorant, moronic or pathetic. So for you to be getting all upset is pretty laughable.

I argued your methodology because you made some comments as to why you'd pick certain players. It was that methodology that I feel is flawed. And I have the right to say so. That doesn't make it stupid.
 
Sorry but that trade is just completely unrealistic.

The #3 pick is worth 2200 alone. Add another 560 with the 34th pick and you've got well over 2700 points to make up. Might as well make it Cassel for the #3 pick straight up! :rolleyes:

Sorry, but I screwed up the trade I intended: Cassell, #23 and #47 for #3 and #34, which is more realistic. You may notice that I didn't list #23 among our picks. My fault.
 
Sorry, but I screwed up the trade I intended: Cassell, #23 and #47 for #3 and #34, which is more realistic. You may notice that I didn't list #23 among our picks. My fault.

Ok that's a little better ;)
 
Mayo good write up.

Two things:

1)If we picked Raja at #5 would you be inclined to not resign Wright?

2) I had Devin Moore as a 2-3 round prospect with the success of Chris Johnson last season who also is a burner from a non BCS school.

I hope we can resign Wright at reasonable money. I would still do so if possible. I'm not sure where we stand with Jarvis Green right now and in the long term, and also whether LeKevin Smith is a viable replacement option at DE.

I love Devin Moore and have had him as a 3rd/4th round pick on many of my mocks. I think he would be a great eventual replacement for Kevin Faulk and could be a Darrin Sproles kind of player. I also think we could use him on screens and short passes a lot to free up his open field skills, and have called him a "poor man's Harvin". BUT Walter's football has consistently been giving him tot he Pats in the 2nd round, and I just don't see him being a 2nd round pick right now. He didn't get a combine invite, which was a big mistake, and there are too many other talented players out there. So yes, I'd love to take him, but not at 58 as things stand right now.
 
I hope we can resign Wright at reasonable money. I would still do so if possible. I'm not sure where we stand with Jarvis Green right now and in the long term, and also whether LeKevin Smith is a viable replacement option at DE.

I love Devin Moore and have had him as a 3rd/4th round pick on many of my mocks. I think he would be a great eventual replacement for Kevin Faulk and could be a Darrin Sproles kind of player. I also think we could use him on screens and short passes a lot to free up his open field skills, and have called him a "poor man's Harvin". BUT Walter's football has consistently been giving him tot he Pats in the 2nd round, and I just don't see him being a 2nd round pick right now. He didn't get a combine invite, which was a big mistake, and there are too many other talented players out there. So yes, I'd love to take him, but not at 58 as things stand right now.

Green will be the key factor when it comes to Wright...who I am a huge fan of but see him maybe wanting to be a full time starter somewhere. It will be interesting to see how the D-Line is going to shape up for 2009 but I would say we have one of the top defensive lines in the whole league. The whole Wilfork coming out saying "the longer it takes the more expensive it will be" worries me about 2010 so I see where Raja would be a great pick if we do move up into the top 7-8. Warren is great and we have him for a few years but I think we will need to address Seymour first (in 09)then Wilfork (possibly franchise him in 2010). To have Wright during all this would make me sleep better at night as he has filled in for all these players very well.

Walters football is a great site, Matt McGuire does some great stuff and I enjoyed his Senior Bowl work. Where Moore is not going to be an every down back in the NFL is the only knock on him that I see. As I eluded to before the success of Felex Jones and Chris Johnson makes me think that some team might reach on this kid and his no invite to combines will make Dion Sanders an unhappy man as he is a 4.3 kid. I am just shaky on LM, when healthy very productive but he barely carried the ball for us last year due to injury. LM has always run in a committee and if you add in Morris, Faulk and BJGE that would give us 5 good RB all with different qualities or styles. In 2010 and 2011 Morris and Faulk will more then likely be leaving us but I agree would be a reach at RB but I love this kid Moore.
 
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