Senator Comcast is on now

[bakes781]

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Actually, its fact. And its stuff the Pats admitted to and have been penalized for. Why do you think that this part warrants a suit to be brought against him?

Not tape of opposition practices

 

[signbabybrady]

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Alright. Thanks for clearing that up for me!

Further more even with a cap there is a split between the rich and the poor as the rich get to spend more money off the cap (because they have it to spend).

 

[ctpatsfan77]

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Further more even with a cap there is a split between the rich and the poor as the rich get to spend more money off the cap (because they have it to spend).

And, just to be clear, off the cap means on things like Belichick's salary and Rodney's pickle juice.

 

[DaBruinz]

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They admitted taping opponent practices?

Not tape of opposition practices

Sorry, misread the original post. They admitted to taping GAMES during that time. Not practices. I guess this is another of Specter's lies.

 

[bakes781]

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Sorry, misread the original post. They admitted to taping GAMES during that time. Not practices. I guess this is another of Specter's lies.

Yeah & it's no better than what we've been slamming the Herald for so I say let's go after him.

Does anyone have video of his press conference?

 

[jmt57]

Re: Sen Comcast is on now

I didn't know that part. Interesting. So that would mean a small market team would be on the losing end if the NFL somehow loses it's anti-trust exemption right?

Funny thing is that it would certainly hurt the Steelers. It would also hurt the Eagles because they're in the same division as two teams with owners that would be more than willing to spend - Cowboys and Redskins - and also in a division with a team from the largest market, the Giants.

So while he's going on about protecting the interests of his constituents, fans of the Steelers and Eagles, revoking the anti-trust agreement would be horrible for both of those teams!

The real reason for all of this is to pressure the NFL to allow Sunday Ticket everywhere. Right now it's not available on Comcast, it is exclusive to DirecTV. Part of the NFL limited anti-trust agreement includes making the games equally available for all Americans to watch. This was taken care of with a local game in every market, and then the national game. Now with many games strictly on DirecTV and NFLN, one could make a point that the spirit of that law has been broken.

Specter has actually been bringing this up since at least 2006. Even more interesting is that one Gregg Easterbrook has been reporting on this same story since then also.

 

[bakes781]

Re: Sen Comcast is on now

No the REAL reason is to continue getting $ in his pocket from Comcast.

 

[bakes781]

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http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/sportsblog/2008/05/complete_text_of_arlen_specter.html#more

The extent of the taping was not disclosed until the NFL was pressured to do so. Originally, Commissioner Goodell said the taping was limited to late in the 2006 season and early in the 2007 season. In his meeting with me on February 13, 2008, Goodell admitted the taping went back to 2000. Until my meeting with Matt Walsh on May 13, 2008, the only taping we knew about took place from 2000 until 2002 and during the 2006 and 2007 seasons.

That left an obvious gap between 2003 and 2005. In response to my questions, Matt Walsh stated he had season tickets in 2003, 2004 and 2005 and saw Steve Scarnecchia, his successor, videotape games during those seasons including:

The Patriots' September 9, 2002 game against the Steelers.
The Patriots' November 16, 2003 game against the Cowboys.
The Patriots' October 31, 2004 game against the Steelers, which the Steelers resoundingly won 34-20. (When the Patriots played the Steelers again that season in the AFC Championship game on January 23, 2005, the Patriots won by a score of 41-27.)

Walsh stated he observed Scarnecchia filming additional Patriots home games, though he could not recall the specific games.

 

[Jade Fox]

Re: Sen Comcast is on now

Funny thing is that it would certainly hurt the Steelers. It would also hurt the Eagles because they're in the same division as two teams with owners that would be more than willing to spend - Cowboys and Redskins - and also in a division with a team from the largest market, the Giants.

So while he's going on about protecting the interests of his constituents, fans of the Steelers and Eagles, revoking the anti-trust agreement would be horrible for both of those teams!

The real reason for all of this is to pressure the NFL to allow Sunday Ticket everywhere. Right now it's not available on Comcast, it is exclusive to DirecTV. Part of the NFL limited anti-trust agreement includes making the games equally available for all Americans to watch. This was taken care of with a local game in every market, and then the national game. Now with many games strictly on DirecTV and NFLN, one could make a point that the spirit of that law has been broken.

Specter has actually been bringing this up since at least 2006. Even more interesting is that one Gregg Easterbrook has been reporting on this same story since then also.

Thanks for the info. It would be the ultimate case of irony if Senator Spector were to get his way and the Eagles get screwed in the process.

 

[BelichickFan]

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http://www.beloblog.com/ProJo_Blogs/sportsblog/2008/05/complete_text_of_arlen_specter.html#more

The Patriots took elaborate steps to conceal their filming of opponents' signals

Right, as this person would be out in front of 70,000 people in plain sight they disguised him with the elaborate disguise of placing a camera in his hand.

 

[BelichickFan]

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Well he got this right :

There is an unmistakable atmosphere of conflict of interest

 

[PonyExpress]

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I don't understand.... Walsh had Patriot season tickets in 2004, so he saw Steve Scarnecchia taping Steeler signals for the 34-20 Steeler blowout, in Pittsburgh. How did his Gillette season ticket migrate to Heinz field?

 

[DaBruinz]

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I don't understand.... Walsh had Patriot season tickets in 2004, so he saw Steve Scarnecchia taping Steeler signals for the 34-20 Steeler blowout, in Pittsburgh. How did his Gillette season ticket migrate to Heinz field?

Pony - Great CATCH on this one.

 

[bakes781]

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Potentially damaging:

Walsh was told by a former offensive player that a few days before the September 11, 2000 regular season game against Tampa Bay, he (the offensive player) was called into a meeting with Adams, Bill Belichick and Charlie Weis, then the offensive coordinator for the Patriots, during which it was explained how the Patriots would make use of the tapes. The offensive player would memorize the signals and then watch for Tampa Bay's defensive calls during the game. He would then pass the plays along to Weis, who would give instructions to the quarterback on the field. This process enabled the Patriots to go to a "no-huddle" offensive, which would lock in the defense the opposing team had called from the sideline, preventing the defense from making any adjustments. When Walsh asked whether the tape he had filmed was helpful, the offensive player said it had enabled the team to anticipate 75 percent of the plays being called by the opposing team.

Any ideas who this former offensive player could be & why Walsh wasn't forced to reveal their identity?

 

[BelichickFan]

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Potentially damaging:

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=82702

Not damaging. Just Sign Stealing (legal) and using the camera film for future games (admitted to).

 

[Pedrorocks458]

Re: Sen Comcast is on now

Potentially damaging:



Any ideas who this former offensive player could be & why Walsh wasn't forced to reveal their identity?

Yeah, this is EXACTLY what we admitted to. If this is damaging to anyone, it's the Bucs, who apparently were dumb enough not to change their signals.

 

[Pedrorocks458]

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My favorite part is the implication that every time a team beats another the second time they play them, after losing the first, it means there had to be foul play involved. One piece of evidence invoked was when we lost 16-13 to the Bills and then won 13-10 the second time.....oh wow, what a swing.

 

[bradmahn]

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My favorite part is the implication that every time a team beats another the second time they play them, after losing the first, it means there had to be foul play involved. One piece of evidence invoked was when we lost 16-13 to the Bills and then won 13-10 the second time.....oh wow, what a swing.

:yeahthat:

I thought the exact same thing.

 

[BelichickFan]

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My favorite part is the implication that every time a team beats another the second time they play them, after losing the first, it means there had to be foul play involved. One piece of evidence invoked was when we lost 16-13 to the Bills and then won 13-10 the second time.....oh wow, what a swing.

And . . . shock . . . we aren't even allowed to lose if we close the gap :

The Patriots played the Dolphins again that season on December 24, 2000; they again narrowed the spread, losing by a score of 27-24.

 

[BelichickFan]

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Oh, and we have to call the exact same plays in the each quarter too :

In addition, Steelers cornerback, Sheldon Brown, reportedly said earlier this year that he noticed a difference in New England's playcalling in the second quarter of the January 27, 2002 AFC Championship game.