Not sure personally. I think that if Gutierrez is safe, and the other two aren't, then you want Gut to take snaps because there's a good chance he'll be back up.
Exactly. As I'd said earlier Gutz missed Wednesday. Wed is when they put in the game plan for the O. Miss it. You really can't play much. Mayb a garb time series assuming the injury is gone.
Aside from the bad pick, O'Connell has looked good tonight. He just looks like a real, live NFL quarterback. And he's even hooking up with Chad Jackson for some catches! Considering how much Jackson is slagged around here, O'Connell must really be something special...
Did anyone listen to Schefter. He said the Pats are high on Gutierrez. He was out several days this week as others have said. He isn't going to get many snaps if any at all.
Assuming they actually do like Gutierrez, they probably won't feature him at all this preseason in order to shuffle him onto the practice squad clandestinely.
With luck, Cassell has taken his last game snap as a patriot.
For the third game, they'll try to get Brady some work, so at least one of the backups will sit.
And by the fourth game, they may know who the backups going into the season are, and be focused on getting them ready and seeing which one's ahead of the other.
Assuming they actually do like Gutierrez, they probably won't feature him at all this preseason in order to shuffle him onto the practice squad clandestinely.
Assuming they actually do like Gutierrez, they probably won't feature him at all this preseason in order to shuffle him onto the practice squad clandestinely.
Do you seriously think this? There is no way they do this, not to mention I don't think he would make it to the PS. I don't think TFB is going to play next week, which means the QB who the pats think will be the backup this year will get most of the reps with the #1's. I think that Cassel is gone, Gutz is the #2, and O'Connell is behind him. As long as Gutz gets in practice this week, he gets a good amount of snaps on Friday.
I love how you all ignore the fact that Gutierrez had looked aweful in camp and played very poorly against third stringers last week...
He was sailing throws in practice when he returned. He isn't backing up Brady (and neither is the rookie who made several very poor decisions tonight beyond the pick). And Gutz is eligible for the PS.
Cassel was likely ripe to be vaulted over on the depth chart as Brady did with Huard or Cassel did with Rohan. But there is no sign of that having happened through 5 months of off season and TC and preseason where Cassel has remained consistently the #2.
I love how you all ignore the fact that Gutierrez had looked aweful in camp and played very poorly against third stringers last week...
He was sailing throws in practice when he returned. He isn't backing up Brady (and neither is the rookie who made several very poor decisions tonight beyond the pick). And Gutz is eligible for the PS.
Cassel was likely ripe to be vaulted over on the depth chart as Brady did with Huard or Cassel did with Rohan. But there is no sign of that having happened through 5 months of off season and TC and preseason where Cassel has remained consistently the #2.
While that is true,Cassel had better offseasons the last 2 years (only a little better in 06/07 although he has been nothing special-ever)
What did he throw in the last 2 days in camp and the last 2 preseason games in terms of picks - Like 9 or 10?
Gutierrez is indeed a #3 and no more and O'Connell is way too green - I am expecting 4 QBs on the roster including a veteran backup signed late in desperation at #2,then Gutierrez at #3 - O'Connell at #4 and Cassel to be bagging groceries at the local Price Chopper
I love how you all ignore the fact that Gutierrez had looked aweful in camp and played very poorly against third stringers last week...
He was sailing throws in practice when he returned. He isn't backing up Brady (and neither is the rookie who made several very poor decisions tonight beyond the pick). And Gutz is eligible for the PS.
Cassel was likely ripe to be vaulted over on the depth chart as Brady did with Huard or Cassel did with Rohan. But there is no sign of that having happened through 5 months of off season and TC and preseason where Cassel has remained consistently the #2.
The rookie made some glaring rookie mistakes last night trying to make something of nothing. You must have watched an alternate feed. He's being asked to do something very different, work with a limited playbook and if things break down try to make something happen without making costly mistakes. His mistakes were only costly once last night. But that was only because the third string and beyond Bucs D weren't making any plays late either. He is what he is - a prospect to be developed.
Cassel has been limited to working with a patchwork offense and line they didn't want Brady exposed to even if his foot didn't need resting. It's a crappy job but somebody has to do it. That is what being the backup to a durable HOF'er is mostly about. Not needing alternate playbooks for guys who are not at all like Brady. If they were to turn Cassel loose and tell him to just go out there and make something happen, he would look a lot like Gutz and O'Connel. He can run a little. They do not want him to. They don't really want the other two to either... It's something that you should only do in this offense in a game you have to win situation when the alternative is not working. This is preseason. Belichick is not auditioning for the improv. Which is why lots of seemingly flashy (but inconsistent) campers never seem to make the grade even as fans see such promise in them...
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