PATRIOTS-80
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
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Ichiro said:But on the other hand, you know Saban, Crennel or Mangini will jump on him if he's released. I would hate it if he developed into a outstanding lineman for a rival team, especially since we used a 2nd round pick on him (and the 2004 draft was so deep).
PatsWickedPissah said:I too have watched Hill since he was drafted. In last year's pre-season he appeared to take plays off and show no cross-field persuit.
Given that we KNOW that there are 3 teams potentially interested in the guy, assuming he plays say the 3rd or 4th game, I wonder if a late conditional trade to the Browns, Jets and highest payment Phins is possible? Usually guys just get cut and someone maybe picks 'em but in this case there are 3 potential buyers with the Phins having last waiver shot.
Let's stockpile 6ths & 7ths.
tombonneau said:If Hill is the bum people claim, why do these same people think Crennel or Mangini would be all over him? Guys that were able to witness his alleged suckiness up close would really be falling over themselves to sign him up after the Pats decided to cut bait on a 2nd round pick after two years? A bit contradictory. Hill Haters can't have it both ways.
I think they will give him another year. Just look at Exhibit A, aka Bethel Johnson to see how long the Pats are willing to let a 2nd round pick stick around before they declare him a bust.
italianpatthepatriot said:i think Marquise Hill was a Patriot...
pity...a 2nd round pick...
kurtinelson said:I took a look at the 2004 draft at the picks made between the Patriot's selection of Hill (No. 63) who was taken at the end of the 2nd round and the Pat's 3rd round pick (No. 95 - Gus Scott). I was expecting to see some serious talent on the list, but not too many of these players jump out at me as impact players in the NFL, yet.
Nick Hardwick C, Chris Cooley TE and Matt Schaub QB would look good to me in a Patriots uniform.
1 64 Darnell Dockett Cardinals DE Florida State
2 65 Nate Kaeding Chargers K Iowa
3 66 Nick Hardwick Chargers C Purdue
4 67 Stuart Schweigert Raiders DB Purdue
5 68 Ben Hartsock Colts TE Ohio State
6 69 Gilbert Gardner Colts LB Purdue
7 70 Joey Thomas Packers DB Montana State
8 71 Randy Starks Titans DT Maryland
9 72 Donnell Washington Packers DT Clemson
10 73 Keith Smith Lions DB McNeese State
11 74 Tim Anderson Bills DT Ohio State
12 75 Max Starks Steelers T Florida
13 76 Derrick Strait Jets DB Oklahoma
14 77 Derrick Hamilton 49ers WR Clemson
15 78 Bernard Berrian Bears WR Fresno State
16 79 Marquis Cooper Buccaneers LB Washington
17 80 Caleb Miller Bengals LB Arkansas
18 81 Chris Cooley Redskins TE Utah State
19 82 Devard Darling Ravens WR Washington State
20 83 Stephen Peterman Cowboys G Louisiana State
21 84 Sean Locklear Seahawks G North Carolina State
22 85 Jeremy LeSueur Broncos DB Michigan
23 86 Jorge Cordova Jaguars LB Nevada
24 87 B.J. Sander Packers P Ohio State
25 88 Darrion Scott Vikings DE Ohio State
26 89 Matt Ware Eagles DB UCLA
27 90 Matt Schaub Falcons QB Virginia
28 91 Tony Hargrove Rams DE Georgia Tech
29 92 Rich Gardner Titans DB Penn State
30 93 Keyaron Fox Chiefs LB Georgia Tech
31 94 Travelle Wharton Panthers T South Carolina
The End Zone said:I think he'll make the team for three reasons: 1) The D-Line has less depth coming into this season than it did at points during the past several seasons; 2) The Pats may already have an "extra" roster spot if they do indeed decide to keep only two QBs; and 3) You try not to ever cut a young DL, especially a former 2nd round pick. His trade value however is so freaking low that there's nothing worth exploring on the market right now. All we can hope for is that he gets "showcased" in one of the last two preseason games and makes an impression on somebody or somebody's line gets so beaten up before the deadline that they become desperate for warm bodies and cough up a pick for him.
And in regards to why he has failed, by all accounts I'm not sure that he could spell his own name if you gave him the letters. At least that seems to be his reputation, which puzzles me becuase both Belichick and Saban love smart players...any thoughts?