Discussion in 'UMass Sports Fan Forum' started by RayClay, Apr 3, 2012.
I'm confused ... is Coach Cal a member of the Patriots??
Roy Williams, Coach K, and Doc Rivers may not fit that description.
Gah. Meant to say, some*.
Yeah, like Mike D'Antoni.
Say what you want about D'Antoni, but he was the second best Knicks coach this year and no one can take that away from him.
Ain't no meese around here to screw.
And where exactly was I undignified in defeat? Kentucky was the better team and clearly won the game as I said. Kansas fought hard against the odds but came up short. No shame there. Both teams played hard and it was entertaining (at least to me, as I enjoy watching good defense in any sport - other than soccer). I have no issues with the game or its result.
I just think that a guy whose two previous programs have both gone down in flames and who has discovered a way to game the system is a bad thing. I think it will definitely make college ball a worse game and contribute to more excess and violations. I don't admire him for what he's done regardless of what I think of the NCAA (and I share many of your views on them). That's all.
I'm not sure what you mean by "game the system". What Calipari has done is accept players who expect to be one-and-done. So has pretty much every other coach in the NCAA. If you think otherwise, coach K would be a good place to start.
Yeah, he fooled everyone at UMass. while teams like Kentucky, NC etc. were recruiting 6-8 McDonald's all Americans, he fooled them by winning thirty five games with 6 players - 5 of whom, no one even recruited.
Please tell me how he "gamed" the system at UMass, so i can respond to you.
By the way, at least at UMass, Cal was never even accused of wrongdoing. It was a guy from Camby's home town in Connecticut.
N.C.A.A. Acts Against Kansas
N.C.A.A. Acts Against Kansas - NYTimes.com
Former Kansas coach said he misunderstood rules
2 out of 3 ain't bad.
I knew a guy once who could gargle pea gravel.
I am referring more to the current situation, rather than the one at UMass. The "gaming" I'm referring to is finding a new way to gain the best recruits, via Worldwide Wes rather than via rich boosters. Very smart of course, as you've got a firewall between the program and the dirty business.
Regarding Kansas, they got quite severely sanctioned as they should have, and for a similar reason - hiring one of the Gypsy coaches who win quickly but tend to leave messes. They then paid their penalty and hired a guy known particularly for cleaning up programs that have violated NCAA rules. Ended badly for him, but not because of recruiting violations.
Well that makes sense. Kentucky has always had a hard time finding the best recruits, due to their lack of rich boosters.
Did you know that turtles can read braille?
There's a rumor going around that some Patriot players got money that coach Cal knew about when they were in college.
AHA! Finally, a reason why this thread is on the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE OF PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL messageboard forum!
So, did coach Cal know about just the players, just the money, or both? And, did the money come from their parents or in the form of a college loan? Or, did they find the money on the street?
I have little time for "coach cal," but I'm even more perplexed by those who are coming down on him for his "one and done" strategy.
As far as I'm concerned, Basketball and Football, as conducted at big time College programs (with a handful of noeworthy exceptions), became "Semi-pro" leagues a long time ago. Why are we decrying Calipari for simply taking that reality to its logical conclusion?
There might still be "student athletes" in sports like Lacrosse, Soccer, Volleyball and swimming, but the big bucks corrupted Basketball and Football a long time ago.
In other news, the Easter Bunny takes time out for some shenanigans!
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