What Are Chances Patriots Make Splash Trade For Justin Fields?

To me it seems like a foolish shortcut. I see little upside for Fields in his passing game. Instead of grasping at baubles, they should do the work and build the team.

I wonder if Chicago would give the Patriots their 9th overall pick, and maybe throw in their 3rd rounder as well for Mac Jones? He was first rounder, and now he has 3 years experience in the NFL.

JohnJH said:

I'm not against it like many other (although some of them do have some solid reasons as to why we shouldn't). I'd give it a shot, but just not at the expense of too valuable and asset.

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Agreed, I don't believe we part with high draft compensation.. see teams know Chicago is likely to trade him and talk is fields would welcome it.. So I can see a 4th and Parker for fields.

Ivan said:

If the Patriots made this deal then they should fire everyone from the janitorial staff to Jonathan Kraft. Then selll the team to someone who knows what they are doing.

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They've had worse trades... sanu for a 2nd is right up there...

Thelonious said:

To me it seems like a foolish shortcut. I see little upside for Fields in his passing game. Instead of grasping at baubles, they should do the work and build the team.

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Fields has had multiple coach's and OCs over his short career. Never good for a young QB.. I'd say trade Mac, and a 6th for him. He has more upside IMO than any QB we have on the roster right now.

Stu Pidassle said:

For a 4th rounder the team is not taking a big chance and he would give some flexibility for building other positions next year.

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Yes! People have to remember we are a 4-13 team, worse offense in the NFL. We need talent at the skill positions badly!

XLIX said:

"It’s unknown what the Bears would want for Fields in the trade market, but a first-round pick at the minimum seems likely."

No bleeping way, period.

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All Da Bears need to do is find one team who wants Fields and they're on easy street. Hopefully that team won't be the Pats.

farn said:

I’m hoping the chances are 0%.

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That's too high.

One-If-By-Sea said:

We do not need a splash. Hard pass. Steady FA signings and good drafts. We have A LOT of cap space if the Pats use void years, and high draft picks. Time for the front office to earn their pay.

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I don't mind void years if there are players worth the money, but the problem is there aren't free agents worth it nor do we have drafted talent we need to keep on the team. Spending money on only okay to good talent is how teams get in trouble.

mike_usagisan said:

I don't mind void years if there are players worth the money, but the problem is there aren't free agents worth it nor do we have drafted talent we need to keep on the team. Spending money on only okay to good talent is how teams get in trouble.

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Yep like GM/BB Post Brady.

Real fan 02 said:

Agreed, I don't believe we part with high draft compensation.. see teams know Chicago is likely to trade him and talk is fields would welcome it.. So I can see a 4th and Parker for fields.

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And be able to get rid off Parker too? That would be worth it alone!!!

PatsFan2 said:

Yep like GM/BB Post Brady.

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Um... you do know that GM/BB is the one who left the pats with all the money to spend in free agency. My point was that was the right approach if the talent isn't worth the money. The problem with BB, as has been discussed endlessly, is that he didn't draft well, especially on the offense side.

mike_usagisan said:

Um... you do know that GM/BB is the one who left the pats with all the money to spend in free agency. My point was that was the right approach if the talent isn't worth the money. The problem with BB, as has been discussed endlessly, is that he didn't draft well, especially on the offense side.

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Agreed, but I don't know that it was just Bill himself that left the cap space, based on everything with the league that the patriots would have ended up having more Cap room in 24 anyways. Just by virtue of contracts coming off the books with FAs ect. ?

Drunken Cicerone said:

Less than ten percent but I don’t hate it either, if Bears are dead set on a QB and the Pats take MHJ at 3 I’m cool watching that duo for a couple of years. Toss a decent RB in there and a free agent WR you have yourselves an actual NFL offense. This team isn’t a player away, especially on offense. I’d rather build the offense up around a decent QB and wait until you find your guy later, same way Chiefs did it.

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Agree. Sign Barkley.

Daniels, Pennix and Nix played in college a looooooooooong time and figured it out. Fields was backup at UGA for a year and transferred to OSU where he started for two years and turned pro. I’m not saying he solves our qb problem. But, the first 3 qb’s I mentioned would all fail given our talent.

You want young talent already on hand so that you can take advantage of his rookie contract when you bring in a qb at 1. Unless, you’re getting elitetalent. QB3 is not elite this year. More like the grad student who knows his way around town.

Real fan 02 said:

They've had worse trades... sanu for a 2nd is right up there...

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That was a horrible trade.

mike_usagisan said:

I don't mind void years if there are players worth the money, but the problem is there aren't free agents worth it nor do we have drafted talent we need to keep on the team. Spending money on only okay to good talent is how teams get in trouble.

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Did you look at the FAs on the defensive side of the ball?

One-If-By-Sea said:

Did you look at the FAs on the defensive side of the ball?

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Ours or the free agents from other teams? I know there are some good ones out there this year, but I'd prefer not to go overboard, as we need to reshape our offense.

As for our upcoming FAs, hopefully Mayo/Wolfe can make the right decisions of who to keep and who to let go and bring in cheap rookies to take their places.

I don't like spending future money on teams that are clearly not in the SB window. If we ever get back there, that's the time to spend from the future. But I liked BB's frugality, so maybe that doesn't apply to the Pats anymore.

mike_usagisan said:

Ours or the free agents from other teams? I know there are some good ones out there this year, but I'd prefer not to go overboard, as we need to reshape our offense.

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You have 1. Free Agency and 2. the Draft. Presently we have the most cap space over the next 3 years due to frugality (it might have been RK not BB - we do not know). It would be OK, IMO, to use some future cap years (void years) and still have the 15th, for example, most cap space over 3 years.

There are very few offensive FAs worth paying for. Defensively there are a bunch of good FAs. That could change as teams use their franchise tags. If we spent money on defense in FA ( because our defense is good and 2 to 4 FAs would make it great), we could then pick mostly offense in the next two drafts.

Could be a very good team in 2025 with good offensive drafts. Adding a few top defensive FAs is not a big risk. The offensive draft picks are the big risk in my plan above.

Real fan 02 said:

Agreed, but I don't know that it was just Bill himself that left the cap space, based on everything with the league that the patriots would have ended up having more Cap room in 24 anyways. Just by virtue of contracts coming off the books with FAs ect. ?

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So Bill was responsible for every iota of what went wrong up until his exit, but wasn't responsible for anything good... like cleaning up the books?

The Patriots are the same fiscally responsible team they were starting back in 2000 when BB and Pioili arrived and set the standard. We'll see if it continues from this point forward. But I think the Krafts understand the concept of spending to the cap and fielding a competitive team annually, rather than having a team that spends erratically and deals with peaks and valleys.

Real fan 02 said:

They've had worse trades... sanu for a 2nd is right up there...

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Doing this - a high pick for Fields - would be a thousand times worse than the Sanu pick. That pick happened when they were desperately trying to squeeze out that last season of the dynasty, had started 8-0, and were suddenly empty at the WR position.

It would have worked a lot better, I think, if they hadn't put him on the field for that punt that got him injured!