Interesting comp for N'Keal Harry

Bruins29 said:

Aren’t you the guy who is telling us all how Harry is going to make some great insurance salesman when he fails at the NFL?

why not be a man and just come out and say you want him to fail? Why dance around it like a pu $$. You want him to fail like you have failed. Like your family has failed in a long list of failures of your gene pool

also this also shows how stupid you are since Harry has a 10 million dollar contract and already got a 5 million signing bonus . Why would Harry ever have to work again ?

how much did you make last year ?

I hope that it’s killing you that this wide receiver (that you hate) made 5x more in one year than you will make in your lifetime.

it hurts dosent it booboo.

By the way when is your next incels anonymous meeting ?

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primetime said:

Should watch some Anquan Boldin. This is basically every catch the guy ever made.

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primetime said:

Should watch some Anquan Boldin. This is basically every catch the guy ever made.

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luuked said:

Thanks for the references.

I am sorry but I don't see how any of this has any relevance at all. Who cares what percentile he is in when we are still talking about an absurdly marginal absolute difference in times.

Again, please tell me in what real world game situation you'd actually see a difference of 0.04sec in the 40yd dash play out in any significant way ?

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iapatsfan said:

It's totally irrelevant. Speed/quickness is only one variable in an ability to create separation from a defender. It's not the only variable, but it is one nonetheless. Was he injured his final year in college? How about the year before that? He has never been able to create separation vs defenders. In college he got away with it due to his size and the competition he faced. There is no reason to expect him to be better at beating defenders when he is now facing bigger/stronger/better defensive backs, and he is not going to be able to simply outman them for jump balls like he did in college.

I don't care what his 40 time says...the guy plays slow...very slow. His time from the combine actually shocked a lot of people because he plays soooo much slower than that. He plays like a 4.8 guy.

It's not treating the guy like sh*t to say he is a bum as a NFL WR. It's simply stating the obvious. He seems like an overall really nice guy, and I think he'll have a nice career as an insurance salesman once this NFL WR thing doesn't pan out. Or, maybe he can put on some weight and become a pulling guard. I think he's got the perfect skill set in terms of speed and quickness for that.

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iapatsfan said:

Strange how N'Keal Harry can even look slower than Anquan Boldin on film. Thanks for the clips.

I'm telling you...put 80 lbs on him, and we may have something at LG. He could possibly make a slightly quicker than average guard.

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luuked said:

Can you explain this ?

We are talking about 0.04 seconds here. How does this turn into a big difference especially because both are essentially the same size while Harry seems to be heavier according to the posted numbers.

The difference is close to a rounding error.

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Kasmir said:

I'm not going to defend the NFL"s obsession with 40 times, and the effects it has had on draft position and remuneration, let alone make claims on how it affects in game performance. Feel free to claim 40yd dash times are irrelevant! I'm only pointing out that assuming the NFL community's obsession with the 40 yard dash time is reasonable, the difference between 4.53 and 4.49 is measurably significant for WR's...

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Patsgofor4 said:

Keyboard tough guy. Why don't you go to one of his autograph appearances next year and say it to his face. You would spontaneously sh*t your pants as soon as he stood up from his seat. Are you just still butt hurt that Bill didn't want Brady anymore? Angry because all of the escort services are temporarily closed?

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luuked said:

You are the one who claimed it is a substantial difference and now you are just pointing your fingers at the "obsession of the NFL community". What is your opinion ?

A difference of 0.04 sec around 4.5 in the 40 yd dash, is essentially the difference (in percentiles) between a WR making 15 or 16 bench presses. Yeah, there is a difference on paper but there are barely any real world consequences.

The average reaction time of a human is 0.25 seconds. So with everything else going on at the LOS there is a good chance many WRs win or lose 3-4x of those 0.04sec just reacting to the snap.

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luuked said:

You are the one who claimed it is a substantial difference and now you are just pointing your fingers at the "obsession of the NFL community". What is your opinion ?

A difference of 0.04 sec around 4.5 in the 40 yd dash, is essentially the difference (in percentiles) between someone making 15 or 16 bench presses. Yeah, there is a difference on paper but there are barely any real world differences.

The average reaction time of a human is 0.25 seconds. So there with everything else going on at the LOS there is a good chance many WRs win or lose 3-4x of those 0.04sec just reacting to the snap.

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Patsgofor4 said:

#1: First down

#2: First down

His time at the combine shocked a lot of people? Is that so? You and the rest of the scouts in the stands were shocked? Or are you talking about you and a few of your college buddies?

If you are big enough and strong enough as a wide receiver, size can definitely still play in the NFL. Harry put up 28 reps at the combine, an excellent number for a linebacker. 38.5 inch vertical at 6'2.5" and nearly 230 pounds. There are numerous examples of wide receivers who "couldn't separate" but because of their elite size/strength, leaping ability and body control/positioning were able to be impact NFL players. Bolden, Bowe, Bryant, Jeffery, among others. Evans separates better than those guys but majority of his touchdown catches are contested....he is just too big and too strong for the DBs. Maybe you should put down your mom's meatloaf and watch some football. Actually, you and Captain Stone should get together for a beer. I think that the two of you would really get along beautifully. Leave your mask and Purell at home.

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primetime said:

It's also a sample of one, there's some uncertainty in it. There's no measurement error with the lasers anymore but I would probably consider anyone within five hundredths of a second to be statistically indistinguishable. A 4.4 to a 4.6 to a 4.8 is a big leap, a 4.48 to a 4.52 doesn't mean much.

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UptownPatsFan said:

Exactly! There might be a “big difference” in scouts’/coaches evaluations of said players, but those times in and of themselves aren’t a big difference at all.

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Kasmir said:

Hey again, if you think you have reform proposals to introduce standardized error bars into the NFL statistical assessments, have at it. I just have to wonder why it hasn't been thought of before. Wisdom of crowds, I guess. Many in the crowd here seem to be averse to all forms of statistical analysis and systems, whether it be my own feeble attempts or elaborate and impressive efforts like those of Football Outsiders. I'm sure it's not because it spoils the fun of personal opinionation.

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iapatsfan said:

After nearly two decades of futility as it relates to drafting a quality non-QB-convert WR, it may be time to officially claim the Patriots scouts/coaches suck at evaluating college WR talent. Then again, maybe not...maybe we should wait nearly three decades for that.

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robertweathers said:

Know-nothing troll with the tired act. Yawn.

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robertweathers said:

Ask NG if there has ever been a BB draft pick he really liked.

You will get silence.

That's all you need to know.

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iapatsfan said:

More tired than the Pats' efforts to draft a WR???? No possible way.

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