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Terez Paylor of Yahoo has fake outrage:
In search of aha moments, smudges get placed on legacy of Bill Belichick and his Patriots dynasty
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Terez Paylor of Yahoo has fake outrage:
In search of aha moments, smudges get placed on legacy of Bill Belichick and his Patriots dynasty
Terez Paylor of Yahoo has fake outrage:
In search of aha moments, smudges get placed on legacy of Bill Belichick and his Patriots dynasty
************. I don't want to deal with this again. Wasn't the whole thing last time that we were filming from an illegal location? Isn't the press box a legal location?
Exactly right. Filming the sidelines from a enclosure is perfectly legal.
WTF is right. No rule was broken.
I think it’s reasonable to include just as a temperature of what the average fan is thinking though.Giving these guys the attention they want and do not deserve.
We've (in small part) fueled the uncritical, outrageous takes by sharing links and indicating how upset we are that someone else is upset.
Should focus our time, energy, and effort on promoting thoughtful analyses (such as Sally Jenkins and Steph Stradley). Only time it makes sense to engage with that kind of content is if someone is posting it on this forum, in which case we can try to educate/inform them.
No need to drag that external stuff in, especially since we aren't changing that guy's mind (or anyone else's for that matter).
I think it’s reasonable to include just as a temperature of what the average fan is thinking though.
And I don’t know if you read the article itself, but I thought it was a good read, and the author pretty much says that he believes the Patriots explanation is likely what happened. The only quibble I had about it was this comment — “and it also doesn’t help the Pats’ case that the team’s official explanation for the most recent incident mirrors the excuses the people involved in the original Spygate were instructed to use in case they were busted.” I don’t recall hearing that before - is this true and I missed it, or is it conjecture?
I wonder who among these guys were on their high horse to punish the Patriots in 2007, 2015, and now?
[edit] looks like OL’ bug eyes Reche Caldwell was involved too.
Clinton Portis, nine other ex-NFL players charged with health care fraud
I heard that too, let's assume it's true, shouldn't be hard to distinguish a guy roaming the field with a camera panning scoreboard, coach signals then plays as opposed to a guy setting up a camera on a tripod in the press box doing a documentary.I think it’s reasonable to include just as a temperature of what the average fan is thinking though.
And I don’t know if you read the article itself, but I thought it was a good read, and the author pretty much says that he believes the Patriots explanation is likely what happened. The only quibble I had about it was this comment — “and it also doesn’t help the Pats’ case that the team’s official explanation for the most recent incident mirrors the excuses the people involved in the original Spygate were instructed to use in case they were busted.” I don’t recall hearing that before - is this true and I missed it, or is it conjecture?
I think it’s reasonable to include just as a temperature of what the average fan is thinking though.
And I don’t know if you read the article itself, but I thought it was a good read, and the author pretty much says that he believes the Patriots explanation is likely what happened. The only quibble I had about it was this comment — “and it also doesn’t help the Pats’ case that the team’s official explanation for the most recent incident mirrors the excuses the people involved in the original Spygate were instructed to use in case they were busted.” I don’t recall hearing that before - is this true and I missed it, or is it conjecture?
There was a discrepancy between the NFL bylaws/constitution and the Ray Anderson memo from 2006. The latter said no videotaping whatsoever. Really, NE should only have been punished for filming in 2006...they were warned 3 times not to do it.
I’m glad other teams think we cheat. There is no downside to that at all in any way for the Patriots.
Again, false. All 32 teams got the memo because Goodell made a change to the wording.
I think what happened was BB didn't know teams were trying to block his video coordinator on the road in 2006. There's the GB situation, but why didn't GB provide the specified spot? This sort of proves collusion, IMO. In other words, at some point in the owners meetings in March of 2006, they had to have made it known that this was the thing. Otherwise, why didn't GB give NE's video coordinator a specified location? GB broke the rule.
The letter 100% did not say "no taping". Every team tapes today and the league does not check any tape of any team, during or after a game.
All teams tape end zone shots which is the 22 tape, which shows the 11/11 end zone angles of every play. That stuff actually goes through the NFL and then is sent back to each team during the week.
Also, teams employ video coordinators as a role within an organization that is tied to advanced scouting.
This is the locations are specified in the rule. You can film whatever you want, except if your NE, because we know we're held to a different standard. So, the Jets right now film whatever they want with their in-house video coordinator person and we have no idea what they're filming because nobody cares.
That's sort of the point of this. This only became a thing because of how great BB is, how Ernie Adams has an incredible photographic memory, even beyond BB and Brady's level, IMO, so when Mangini was telling Woody Johnson about this, and then Johnson championed the hiring of Goodell, voila, there's the start of constant rule changed to try to stop how great BB is.
And, as per usual, Goodell lied and said they would do "spot checks" of tapes after Spygate broke just like his August 2015 lie about taking PSI data during the 2015 to show transparency.
Fact 1: Never happened
Fact 2: Never happened
Nothing is stopping anyone from buying a ticket, sitting in the stands and filming with a cellphone either, which is what makes, literally, ALL of this, so laughable.
Sorry, if the coach’s box is prohibited, what is the enclosed area that people are supposed to film from?The Anderson (2006) memo seems pretty clear-
“Videotaping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game.”
The NFL Constitution (pre-2006) says something else
“Any use by any club at any time, from the start to the finish of any game in which such club is a participant, of any communications or information-gathering equipment, other than Polaroid-type cameras or field telephones, shall be prohibited, including without limitation videotape machines, telephone tapping, or bugging devices, or any other form of electronic devices that might aid a team during the playing of a game.”
League’s operations manual (2007):
“No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches’ booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game.” Furthermore, all video shooting locations for shooting purposes “must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead.”
So basically, overall, the NFL rules were not clear as to what type of video taping was permitted. I believe Bill was given a warning 3 times not to do it and he kept doing it. He should have stopped or gotten clarification.
Sorry, if the coach’s box is prohibited, what is the enclosed area that people are supposed to film from?
“If you’re a Patriots fan, you’ll likely buy their explanation. If you’re not, you won’t. And because of the lack of proof (at the moment) either way, that’s probably not changing. ”
Wait, anyone accused of anything is under suspicion, and we just have to accept that, until they prove their innocence?
Sorry, no. Prove their guilt
I read most books on a kindle with my mouth open, lips moving to each word so people know I’m a moron that can read.Living outside of NE in multiple spots in the country, I can tell you it's really annoying. The mental destruction this franchise has caused people is beyond epic. It's partially funny, but it's also very disturbing that people cannot accept greatness and things like intelligence, operational approaches that work, are fundamentally tried and true, diligence and things like maturity and selflessness. Our society is so selfish right now, it somehow appears Odell Beckham is a good investment over, say, Julian Edelman.
It makes me laugh how wrong our society is today, but I also think it's scary building a country filled with morons, mouths open all day staring at a tablet or smartphone instead of reading books.
Living outside of NE in multiple spots in the country, I can tell you it's really annoying. The mental destruction this franchise has caused people is beyond epic. It's partially funny, but it's also very disturbing that people cannot accept greatness and things like intelligence, operational approaches that work, are fundamentally tried and true, diligence and things like maturity and selflessness.