Patriots sign TE Eric Tomlinson

mosslost · Oct 15, 2019

50-yard-line said:
it shows that he's getting targeted a lot - you can't get receptions/yards unless you're getting targeted, right? Isn't a big part of the problem with Patriots' rookie WRs and TEs that Brady (as he just admitted) doesn't look their way very often?

For example, my guess 9and firm belief) is that Meyers would have some pretty impressive stats as a rookie WR somewhere other than New England. I watched him closely from the stands in preseason and he was getting separation a lot. It boggles my mind that he went undrafted, because he's as good or better than many of those who were drafted, imo.

It's so damned easy to look at other rookies at these types of of high-profile positions and claim a "fail" by the Patriots, whereas those rookies here, in this system, with this quarterback, probably wouldn't be getting a second look. I use as my evidence Brady's interception in the end zone, where looking to Edelman and flipping it to Meyers was an easy 6 points.

I get it. Some folks say 50% success on targets and that is the stat that is meaningless. (ball bounces at the receivers feet etc)

If you are using the stat to see how many times the QB throws to them total then it is not a fake stat.

Urgent · Oct 15, 2019

Had he come out in this draft, he would have been the second biggest, but the absolute slowest of the top 20 TE prospects. Bottom two or three for explosion in the vertical and broad jump.
All the profiles have him as a pure blocker. The 4.98 40 suggests he won't be beating any linebackers on routes.
But the Patriots clearly need lead blocking. Bit tall for a regular fullback, but should do OK as on on-the-line blocker.
Maybe if Izzo loans him the invisibility cloak that Chris Hogan left in his locker (which, in his defense, is impossible to find when you're looking for it), he might pick up a couple receptions.

mgteich · Oct 15, 2019

yup, a blocking TE (see Dwayne Allen) with maybe one target in every game.

Izzo is a poor companion since he is one of the very worst blockers in the NFL. He needs to be compared to the receiving TE's, where he is also among the very worst.

Urgent said:
Had he come out in this draft, he would have been the second biggest, but the absolute slowest of the top 20 TE prospects. Bottom two or three for explosion in the vertical and broad jump.
All the profiles have him as a pure blocker. The 4.98 40 suggests he won't be beating any linebackers on routes.
But the Patriots clearly need lead blocking. Bit tall for a regular fullback, but should do OK as on on-the-line blocker.
Maybe if Izzo loans him the invisibility cloak that Chris Hogan left in his locker (which, in his defense, is impossible to find when you're looking for it), he might pick up a couple receptions.

PatsFan2 · Oct 15, 2019

Urgent said:
Had he come out in this draft, he would have been the second biggest, but the absolute slowest of the top 20 TE prospects. Bottom two or three for explosion in the vertical and broad jump.
All the profiles have him as a pure blocker. The 4.98 40 suggests he won't be beating any linebackers on routes.
But the Patriots clearly need lead blocking. Bit tall for a regular fullback, but should do OK as on on-the-line blocker.
Maybe if Izzo loans him the invisibility cloak that Chris Hogan left in his locker (which, in his defense, is impossible to find when you're looking for it), he might pick up a couple receptions.

They have a play in the Tweets of Ryan Izzo's best play all year from the TE position going in motion to the FB position: the LB he was Blocking look like he weighs 105 soaking wet. I hope that play with Izzo is not a regular because it won't work against a real LB coming at full steam.

fnordcircle · Oct 15, 2019

shmessy said:
Tomlinson and Watson.

Coupled with this:

Gronk's wrong he just doesn't know it yet. Week 10.

mgteich · Oct 15, 2019

OK. Who would prefer to have Izzo on the 53 for the last half, instead of Tomlinson?

TomPatriot · Oct 15, 2019

mgteich said:
OK. Who would prefer to have Izzo on the 53 for the last half, instead of Tomlinson?

How many people have actually watched Tomlinson play in a game (not highlights)?

captain stone · Oct 15, 2019

mgteich said:
OK. Who would prefer to have Izzo on the 53 for the last half, instead of Tomlinson?

Not me.

TomPatriot said:
How many people have actually watched Tomlinson play in a game (not highlights)?

Doesn't matter...it is a metaphysical impossibility to be worse than Ryan Izzo...

...unless your name is Matt LaGlasse...

PatsFan2 · Oct 15, 2019

captain stone said:
Not me.

Doesn't matter...it is a metaphysical impossibility to be worse than Ryan Izzo...

...unless your name is Matt LaGlasse...

Ryan Izzo gives a solid explanation to the Terminology "Y" TE...Why is he playing Tight End?

PatsFan2 · Oct 15, 2019

FWIW Eric Tomlinson had a miserable Combine.

RobertWeathers · Oct 15, 2019

PatsFan2 said:
FWIW Eric Tomlinson had a miserable Combine.

Who cares. He's been a pro for 4 years

PatsFan2 · Oct 15, 2019

robertweathers said:
Who cares. He's been a pro for 4 years

Good for him: was just doing a little research he looked nervous as hell double catching and dropping the football.

One-If-By-Sea · Oct 15, 2019

PatsFan2 said:
Good for him: was just doing a little research he looked nervous as hell double catching and dropping the football.

He is a big boy, lumbering, and a straight ahead runner - looks like a hammer type the BB likes. No shake and bake - battering ram. I am sure he is glad to have a job, and on the Pats no less, so I expect he will try his hardest and not get in a dispute with his position coach.

RobertWeathers · Oct 15, 2019

PatsFan2 said:
Good for him: was just doing a little research he looked nervous as hell double catching and dropping the football.

He certainly isn't a pass catcher. He needs to be a road grader.

Biffins · Oct 15, 2019

I suppose Eric will make room when AB is ready to join.

Zuma · Oct 15, 2019

robertweathers said:
He certainly isn't a pass catcher. He needs to be a road grader.

No he's not...however in the past 3 years...

Allen...

Tomlinson...

I'll be really happy if he blocks well, is a decent special teamer and has 10ish receptions this year.

Just noticed 15 ypr in 2017

RobertWeathers · Oct 15, 2019

Zuma said:
No he's not...however in the past 3 years...

Allen...

Tomlinson...

I'll be really happy if he blocks well, is a decent special teamer and has 10ish receptions this year

I want crunching blocks in the run game and solid pass blocking.

Any catches he makes are a bonus

PatsFan2 · Oct 15, 2019

Zuma said:
No he's not...however in the past 3 years...

Allen...

Tomlinson...

I'll be really happy if he blocks well, is a decent special teamer and has 10ish receptions this year.

Just noticed 15 ypr in 2017

Allen actually had catches for the Patriots?? Dam I'didn't notice.

Zuma · Oct 15, 2019

robertweathers said:
I want crunching blocks in the run game and solid pass blocking.

Any catches he makes are a bonus

And when he does make a catch...look out ! No more AB baby !

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