Brady: My medical (concussion) history isn't anyone's business

[Tony2046]

Actually I can very easily believe it if it's not obvious and can be concealed. Otherwise we are talking about Brady entering the protocol and sitting knowing fully well there's a guy behind him on the depth chart who has shown he may have what it takes to take the reins of this team. Do you really think Brady would let that happen without a "fight"?

I hope he isn't deliberately hiding them but it's possible that he is. It will be interesting to see what happens to guys who hide concussions if there ever are CTE suits against the league.

Of course if he did tell the team and they didn't put him in the protocol then I expect they will be severely punished and this time it's indefensible. Probably puts a permanent stain on this team's legacy and especially Bill's.

I find this position exactly what the NFL wants the position to be. Make it the player's or the HC's responsibility to notify the league that a player had a concussion.

Imo, that position is severely flawed if the concern is to protect players from playing with concussions.

1. Players nor coaches are able to determine whether or not a player has a mild concussion or not.
2. How many players are going to risk reporting to a sideline specialist knowing they could be pulled from the game? Not many.

IOW, the onus is on the people who are known to avoid being pulled from the game which is exactly why the concussion protocol was supposedly implemented in the first place.

The position should be one that focuses on the NFL.

1. If they were concerned about players playing with a concussion they would have used an impact sensing helmet to record any hits a player endured to the head during a game. They would be able to track that info live. If a player experienced a hit above a certain force threshold it would trigger a visit to the sideline specialist. You see? The players and coaches would be effectively removed from the diagnosing process.

2. If impact sensing was used across all levels of football (HS, College and Pro) a player's total hits received over his career could be logged and monitored.

If the NFL and the mediots truly cared about a player's safety that's the direction they would go in but they don't and would rather keep the discussion on how Brady cheated or circumvented yet another rule.

I would bet the NFL has thought of this long ago and knows that if it did use impact sensors hundreds of players would be sent to the sideline every single Sunday. Great for the players but bad for football.

BTW: The concussion protocol does little to protect players from CTE as it is currently implemented. It is more of a legal protective blanket than something to protect the players.

The irony? I'd bet that soon after impact sensors were installed in every helmet players would soon learn how to avoid hits that would trigger a trip to the sideline because , again, they are the people who are avoiding being pulled from a game..

 

[XLIX]

Actually I can very easily believe it if it's not obvious and can be concealed. Otherwise we are talking about Brady entering the protocol and sitting knowing fully well there's a guy behind him on the depth chart who has shown he may have what it takes to take the reins of this team. Do you really think Brady would let that happen without a "fight"?

Gimme a break. There was zero chance whatsoever Garoppolo displaced Brady as the starter last year, whether Brady missed games for suspension or injury.

Of course if he did tell the team and they didn't put him in the protocol then I expect they will be severely punished and this time it's indefensible. Probably puts a permanent stain on this team's legacy and especially Bill's.

I'm not sure it puts a "permanent stain" on the legacy, but it wouldn't be good.

 

[XLIX]

I am a physician and would NEVER share a patient's medical information with their employer without the patient's understanding of what I was doing and them agreeing to it - no matter what arrangement or contract they had with the employer. JPP kept his hand information from the Giants for the longest time because it was his desire and his doctors honored it.

That's a separate case; that was a non-football injury which took place during the offseason - and even then the Giants doctors were eventually able to look at him.

Players are allowed a 2nd opinion on their injuries. In fact, I believe they have that contractual right in the CBA. But I don't think they can just hide from the team physicians.

 

[bormio]

That's a separate case; that was a non-football injury which took place during the offseason - and even then the Giants doctors were eventually able to look at him.

Players are allowed a 2nd opinion on their injuries. In fact, I believe they have that contractual right in the CBA. But I don't think they can just hide from the team physicians.

The Giants got to examine him because JPP allowed it. No doctor not employed by the team would send the Giants anything, on any injury, without the player's express permission. And players hide injuries all the time - especially players trying to make the team in camp. (I remember Edelman saying he hid a sports hernia).

 

[sb1]

Gimme a break. There was zero chance whatsoever Garoppolo displaced Brady as the starter last year, whether Brady missed games for suspension or injury.

I'm not sure it puts a "permanent stain" on the legacy, but it wouldn't be good.

How did that thinking work out with Bledsoe? Do you really think Brady and his fiery competitiveness would let Bill even entertain the thought?

As for the latter it would put Bill and the team in a very unfavorable light when it comes to how they treat and take care of players, not to mention the obvious perception.

 

[XLIX]

How did that thinking work out with Bledsoe?

Bledsoe was not the GOAT.

To see how ridiculous your comment is, go see Belichick's response when someone asked him in training camp who his week 5 starter would be if Garoppolo played well.

 

[sb1]

Bledsoe was not the GOAT.

To see how ridiculous your comment is, go see Belichick's response when someone asked him in training camp who his week 5 starter would be if Garoppolo played well.

Again do you think Brady would do anything to allow Bill to entertain the thought?

Why do you think Brady even made the play till 45 comment when he did?

Yeah I can totally see him do whatever it takes to play even if it means hiding concussions. I don't like it but I can definitely see it.

 

[Simpelton]

Gimme a break. There was zero chance whatsoever Garoppolo displaced Brady as the starter last year, whether Brady missed games for suspension or injury.

This was said before, with similar convictions, not so very long ago, about another quarterback.

The way it came out there was no way Jimmy G was keeping the job, especially because of his unfortunate injury against Miami. But to say that there was no chance at all that Jimmy G could hold off TB12? Or to make the more specific claim I see implied here, that there was never any chance? I don't agree with that because I never believe in ruling things out completely.

The chance was infinitesimal, but exactly zero? I can't agree. And more to the point, Brady wouldn't agree if you asked him. He's on record as fighting for his job every single Sunday.

 

[XLIX]

This was said before, with similar convictions, not so very long ago, about another quarterback.

The way it came out there was no way Jimmy G was keeping the job, especially because of his unfortunate injury against Miami. But to say that there was no chance at all that Jimmy G could hold off TB12? Or to make the more specific claim I see implied here, that there was never any chance? I don't agree with that because I nevery believe in ruling things out completely.

The chance was infinitesimal, but exactly zero? I can't agree. And more to the point, Brady wouldn't agree if you asked him. He's on record as fighting for his job every single Sunday.

There was zero chance whatsoever Garoppolo would take Brady's starting job. Period. Brady's self-motivation statements do nothing to change that fact.

Belichick himself scoffed at the idea.

 

[Simpelton]

There was zero chance whatsoever Garoppolo would take Brady's starting job. Period. Brady's self-motivation statements do nothing to change that fact.

Belichick himself scoffed at the idea.

Was that before or after Garoppolo's injury?

And again, I'm not saying there was a good chance, or even that it was plausible, but there a very very few things that actually have a 0% chance to happen.

 

[XLIX]

Was that before or after Garoppolo's injury?

I think in the hypothetical being discussed (and we may certainly not necessarily be on the same page here), it is a situation where Brady got a concussion somewhere mid-season and missed a game. Presumably this would have been at a point where Garoppolo was OK to start.

And again, I'm not saying there was a good chance, or even that it was plausible, but there a very very few things that actually have a 0% chance to ha ppen.

Well, let's look at what did happen. Garoppolo played well as a backup. When he was healthy, did he take the #1 spot away from Brady? The answer, of course, is no. So why would you think there would be a chance he could take the #1 spot if he played a week of duty to cover an absent Brady?

 

[Ivan]

The truth is that Garrapolo isn't competing for the starting job right now, which tells you exactly what his chances of keeping it last season were.

 

[Ring 6]

How did that thinking work out with Bledsoe? Do you really think Brady and his fiery competitiveness would let Bill even entertain the thought?

As for the latter it would put Bill and the team in a very unfavorable light when it comes to how they treat and take care of players, not to mention the obvious perception.

Are you seriously comparing drew Bledsoe to Tom Brady and suggesting that belichick would bench the GOAT?
Come on.

 

[Simpelton]

There is always a situation under which any starting quarterback may get benched.

No quarterback understands this better than TB12 who works every game as if he's trying to keep his job.

 

[Drewwho]

Gisele, seriously? Wouldn't have been too much to ask to have your man go into an NFL season without any drama!?!?

Bradys in an impossible situation. He can't state anything about a concussion or the Pats are looking at penalties since it was never reported on an injury report... bottom line. Gisele really f@@ked up here!!!

 

[DarrylS]

One of Boston's favorite bottom feeders, Curly Haired Boyfriend, who works for the Globe has come out with another ******** article.. oh lookee me he says, what a f..ing joke he has become..

Fortunately I do not subscribe to the Globe, so I cannot access this piece of crap reporting.. the radio mediots will be discussing this today and probably following along.. without a doubt Shaunessy will be appearing on some talk show to get some time to expand on his bogus theories..

Dan Shaughnessy: Tom Brady’s refusal to discuss concussions is hypocritical - The Boston Globe

 

[borg]

Concussion Expert Says Letting Kids Play Football Should Be Considered Child Abuse

 

[Jackson 2]

One of Boston's favorite bottom feeders, Curly Haired Boyfriend, who works for the Globe has come out with another ******** article.. oh lookee me he says, what a f..ing joke he has become..

Fortunately I do not subscribe to the Globe, so I cannot access this piece of crap reporting.. the radio mediots will be discussing this today and probably following along.. without a doubt Shaunessy will be appearing on some talk show to get some time to expand on his bogus theories..

Dan Shaughnessy: Tom Brady’s refusal to discuss concussions is hypocritical - The Boston Globe

CHB made his weekly appearance on 98.5 today on the mid-day show. I listened just long enough to hear Bertrand and (Bo)Zo admit to him that they agreed with the gist of his point in the column.

 

[Jackson 2]

Gisele, seriously? Wouldn't have been too much to ask to have your man go into an NFL season without any drama!?!?

Bradys in an impossible situation. He can't state anything about a concussion or the Pats are looking at penalties since it was never reported on an injury report... bottom line. Gisele really f@@ked up here!!!

Wrong. Unless it can be proven that Brady informed the team, its a closed matter. If it can be proven, they deserve to be penalized.

 

[Ivan]

One of Boston's favorite bottom feeders, Curly Haired Boyfriend, who works for the Globe has come out with another ******** article.. oh lookee me he says, what a f..ing joke he has become..

Fortunately I do not subscribe to the Globe, so I cannot access this piece of crap reporting.. the radio mediots will be discussing this today and probably following along.. without a doubt Shaunessy will be appearing on some talk show to get some time to expand on his bogus theories..

Dan Shaughnessy: Tom Brady’s refusal to discuss concussions is hypocritical - The Boston Globe

Why on earth would you give CHB the opportunity for more clicks?