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Thoughts ?
brisby51 said:I think all this respect stuff is overrated, IMHO it really all comes down to the money.
mgcolby said:There is obviously a perception that the Pats are cheap
So do we start worrying about a certain sixth round pick that plays quarterback? That guy could be the top paid player in the entire league. I don't get the "he worked his way up from nothing to prominence so now he gets more greedy theory". Once you become established at a certain level, or perceived level, where you came from goes out the window.mgcolby said:I don't believe Milloy and Law affected who stayed and went. There is obviously a perception that the Pats are cheap, but winning truly affects who comes not so much as who stays. You can't blame a guy like Givens when he goes after the money, the guy is 7th round pick who worked his way up to the 2 slot within 4 years and won 2 rings. This contract gives or should give him financial security for the rest of his life. Same with Willie it was his first shot at the open market and at his age 4 mil is like hitting the lottery.
smg93 said:Sorry, SEMI OT:
I think you are right when people think about the Pats as not willing to pay for high profile FA's and the like. There are exceptions of course but even when they brought in Rodney it wasn't like they broke the bank or anything. After reading about this perception for a while now and this has nothing to do with mgcolby's post specifically but just the perception in general, I think that perception is unwarranted. Perhaps the average fan who only knows the big names would tend to think the team is "cheap". But if you went about and asked the "middle class" of this team, I think they would say that the Pats were actually pretty generous.
The Pats have an established core who they pay handsomely like Brady and Seymour. But as has been written about over and over again, they do they have strong middle class because they pay them better than say the Redskins who are willing to pay top dollar for FA stars. It's all about wanting to put your money in the right places. The great analogy to that is this country. It's been so successful in the last few decades because the back bone of its economy is a strong middle class. Even in so called Third World countries, there are people who are just as wealthy as the people in the Forbes list of Billionaires. The difference between the economies of the "developed world" and the "under developed economies" is a strong middle class. Perhaps that's the secret to Patriot success as well.
Fanfrom1960 said:So do we start worrying about a certain sixth round pick that plays quarterback? That guy could be the top paid player in the entire league. I don't get the "he worked his way up from nothing to prominence so now he gets more greedy theory". Once you become established at a certain level, or perceived level, where you came from goes out the window.