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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.only if Mac‘s arc suddenly turns skyward I thinkHow surprised are we going to be when Bill's our coach next year and Mac's the QB? I have a funny feeling that may happen.
Just doing what's best for the football team...5 years from now after BB retires his memoire will be published and we will all come to find out that these past few seasons were part of the 'plan' to rebuild. The plan to have more than enough cap with high draft pick(s)? to splurge on the new dynasty.... Chess > checkers < othello? /sarcasm /wishfulthinking
BB Hasn't changed a bit. The talent around him has. Be it his staff or players on the roster. Plain and simple!I can't say hes changed the way he coaches or not.
What I can say is he is not coaching or running the organization as well as he had in the past.
Sub-optimal personnel moves...lack of discipline...lack of execution, etc.
If i'm looking to make a general statement about BB right now it's he's lost his fastball.
There were always players who said it was no fun playing here, and there were always players who loved it. Talking heads will pick whichever quotes they find best fit their agenda of the moment, which is of course always whatever will maximize clicks.… One of the talking heads said it was no fun playing here when they were 12-4, 14-2, winning SBs and going to the AFCCG every year. Well, how much fun is it when you’re 2-7?
They make way more on-the-field mistakes. To you point could be talent but could be they just aren't listening to him.BB Hasn't changed a bit. The talent around him has. Be it his staff or players on the roster. Plain and simple!
Agreed. I feel it's just talent, when we had the talent seems as if they took to the coaching. It's the loosing, not buying in, loss of focus. It's even spilled over to the defense..They make way more on-the-field mistakes. To you point could be talent but could be they just aren't listening to him.
Also just a side note. I saw the post game interview with Godchaux. He said verbatim.. " a team traded thier two best edge guys and we still couldn't take advantage, still couldn't win".. he repeated it like 3x. As a leader on defense that is telling!They make way more on-the-field mistakes. To you point could be talent but could be they just aren't listening to him.
They make way more on-the-field mistakes. To you point could be talent but could be they just aren't listening to him.
It does seem that the hallmark of being well coached is gone. If that's Bill being stretched too thin, no buy in, no talent... who knows?Agreed. I feel it's just talent, when we had the talent seems as if they took to the coaching. It's the loosing, not buying in, loss of focus. It's even spilled over to the defense..
I don't think Bill is going through the motions. I think he is legitimately giving it 100% of everything he has.It does seem that the hallmark of being well coached is gone. If that's Bill being stretched too thin, no buy in, no talent... who knows?
Is it possible he (Bill) is just going thru the motions and collecting a check at this point? If it was anyone else, I would 100% think that, but because it's Bill Belichick, we sit here and wait for him to magically turn it around.
He's not going to. They are what they are.
You said it spot on. It's a collection of all those things. Guys came here, well to win based on the allure of the patriots and everything they meant (past tense) . I believe BB is of course still the same coach, but just doesn't have the guys.. when you have those certain players It's alot easier to get the message resonated. His staff has also taken big hits over the years so ultimately yes more on his plate. For example pelligrino is the DBs coach.. he's 31 years old, and his background is lacrosse. How can someone teach a position they never played. Just decisions like that for example.It does seem that the hallmark of being well coached is gone. If that's Bill being stretched too thin, no buy in, no talent... who knows?
Is it possible he (Bill) is just going thru the motions and collecting a check at this point? If it was anyone else, I would 100% think that, but because it's Bill Belichick, we sit here and wait for him to magically turn it around.
He's not going to. They are what they are.
This is what some of us were saying about his arm strengthView attachment 54450
He could have pulled the trigger when Gesicki crossed the 40. No confidence in his ability.
Agreed. Take a look at his staff, Mike pelligrino a 30 yr. Old lacrosse player. In charge of coaching up DBs. It's as if he believes that people who have played in any sports could coach football.We also seem to forget the past few years have seen a huge migration/poaching/retiring of important coaches. Scars loss was immense. And tbh I think McD leaving screwed Mac. Then bill on top of it not having a legit coach for him. They literally ruined him me thinks.
Maybe you misinterpreted my post... Maybe you didn't and I misunderstood yours... Let me try to be clearer
You knew what you had in 2000... Same guy you have in 2023... Same guy who kept this franchise humming for 20 years.
Fundamentally BB has not changed the way he coaches... this should not be a surprise to anyone.
Guy is rock solid as far as I am concerned. If he is here next year, I'm good with that. Make a few tweaks in the scoutíng program/player eval, bring Josh back ànd lets roll .
That's my "so?"