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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I think it is legal for them to ASK, and you are confusing the fact that Go-to-Hell's interpretation of the CBA gives him the right to do whatever he wants to a player (who agreed to this mutual pact) who refuses that REQUEST. But that does not extrapolate out to a general principal that every other employer can use. Most of us do NOT work under a CBA.
Only scummy organizations would ask for Facebook account credentials etc, I'd never work for one that makes such ridiculous and invasive requests
The audacity to demand such a thing, as if they have a right to read your personal conversations with family, friends and lovers
You have that backwards. If Brady is protected from having to turn over the phone it would be the CBA (or a law -- but since the NFLPA didn't claim the NFL broke any laws, which the NFLPA certainly would have claimed if laws were broken it's a safe assumption there was no law) that protected him.
People working w/o a CBA or a contract that gives them a right not to have their personal phone demanded on pain of punishment have less rights than Brady does, not more.
The other factor is TBs employer is the Patriots and they did not (I don't think?) ask him to turn over his personal phone to them or Wells.
That is interesting. If that were the case and they did not it would have been a slap in Rog's face. I haven't read or heard anything like that. Curious though.
You have that backwards. If Brady is protected from having to turn over the phone it would be the CBA (or a law -- but since the NFLPA didn't claim the NFL broke any laws, which the NFLPA certainly would have claimed if laws were broken it's a safe assumption there was no law) that protected him.
People working w/o a CBA or a contract that gives them a right not to have their personal phone demanded on pain of punishment have less rights than Brady does, not more.
This.
They can ask as part of an investigation. They have no subpoena power so Brady can say no. He cannot be disciplined for not handing over the phone but not doing so can be considered a factor in assessing guilt.
In other words heirs [sic, he is] not obligated to give them his phone but denying the request can be considered suspicious and since the NFL doesn't really have to justify its decision can use that as a basis or contributing factor.
Who needs a lawyer George Carlin can break it down like no other.You must be one of those lawyers who was taught that the constitution is a charter of 'negative liberties'. We are inherently free in america and to have that freedom removed a law must be passed to restrict that freedom; not the other way around as you say.
Laws dont give rights they restrict them. Rights-freedoms are inherent/assumed.
He's referring to Brady's two other phones. One which he owned prior to the time frame in question (Nov-March IIRC) and the other after.
Only scummy organizations would ask for Facebook account credentials etc, I'd never work for one that makes such ridiculous and invasive requests
The audacity to demand such a thing, as if they have a right to read your personal conversations with family, friends and lovers
Right, but the one he didn't provide to forensics was the Nov-Mar phone (i.e., the most relevant one).
Right, but the one he didn't provide to forensics was the Nov-Mar phone (i.e., the most relevant one).
I can't believe This thread had gone back to leterkos idiotic phone obsession.
But but but but what if Brady texted Morgan Fairchild about PSI...................
But but but but what if Brady texted Morgan Fairchild about PSI...................
Always good to include a point of reference.In her prime she was a goddess.
Goodell probably didn't seem AT&T to be credible.He tried to get the texts from AT&T but was unsuccesful.
Look the truth is that if brady were to give up his phone EVERY player in the NFL would hate him. That is a big no-no. Goondell would use this as precedent for every disciplinary case before him.
In her prime she was a goddess.