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  1. Fixit

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    John Clayton:

    "It's hard to believe the Chargers will copy the defensive strategy used by the Jaguars. The Jags tried to play it safe and still got burned by Brady. They blitzed just eight times. Most of their defenses were to drop more defenders into coverage and try to force Brady to pass short. At first, they confused Brady. Once Brady figured out what they were doing after a couple of series, he burned them with underneath passes."

    As everyone but apparently Clayton knows, Brady started out 16-for-16. I'd love for Brady to be that confused for two more games.
     
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    BrianPat Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    That's true, how could he tell Tom was confused ?? No bad passes and moved the ball on the Jags pretty well.
     
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    Brady was confused about why the underneath routes were so open for his first 16 passes. :bricks:
     
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    That really just is HUMILIATINGLY stupid.
     
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    I'm guessing he was confused because he couldn't believe an NFL team with a whole week to prepare for him and hundreds of games worth of evidence would think to leave those underneath routes wide open so he could pick them apart. Maybe he smelled a trap?

    My guess? He looked at the first offensive snap, which if you remember was a sack of Brady, and considered that sufficient evidence of his confusion.
     
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    I do think the Chargers will employ the same strategy as the jags, with the exception that their front 7 can rush the passer more effectively. I will say Brady hardly look confused Saturday night. He tore the Jags apart.
     
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    I still think the Jags strategy was ok. it kept the game close, which many teams hadnt been able to do.

    they were basically gambling that they could get a fumble or some key penalties, which didnt happen. but at least it gave them a chance
     
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    Is it possible he's referring to the FIRST GAME THE PATS PLAYED AGAINST San Diego???
     
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    No, it isn't. Read it again, he says explicitly he's comparing it to the Jags game. At least read the quote.
     
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    I think the Jags strategy was pretty solid. I mean they had to know that by stopping Moss they were giving it up underneath to Welker, Watson, and the run game. But still, they kept it close and gave their team a shot. If they baited Brady into an INT (pretty tough to do), or Warren didn't force that fumble in the 1st half, they really could have had a shot. I think their strategy ultimately shows that in order to beat the Pats, you have to be willing to be scored on time and again, and hope that you can just make a couple of big/lucky plays.

    Brady, of course, was smart enough to figure it out and take what he could get.

    The comment by Clayton on the other hand was just ridiculous. If Brady was confused at all, it sure didn't show. I wish when I was confused I still completed 100% of the things I was trying to do.
     
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    Not really; that one began with Brady going 7-for-7 on the opening drive and throwing for a touchdown, including a 34-yarder to Welker. I wouldn't mind seeing Brady that confused, either. :)
     
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    I think any strategy designed to allow your opponent to pick up first downs, and which accept the fact you'll be scored upon frequently, is not really a recipe for success. It limited the Patriots ability to strike quickly, but really that just slowed down the game and suppressed the overall final score. Your contention is that they were hoping for a turnover, so wouldn't a better recipe for that be forcing Brady to gamble rather than leaving open the short routes on which he is basically automatic?
     
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    teams gambling with blitzing have generally been burned this year.

    put it this way: I would prefer to not see the Jags gameplan again, b/c it basically forces us to be perfect. and on a frigid windy night, that's gonna be hard for everyone to do. fumbles could easily happen, etc
     
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    I think the Jags goal was to not get blown out and then maybe catch a lucky break and win. There is a little to no chance they would ever win that way but I guess it saves face for Del Rio. It sort of reminded me of the Pittsburgh game when down 3 scores halfway through the 4th, Tomlin decided to run out the clock the rest of the game so as to make the final score more respectable.

    San Diego won't play that way. Netiher would Indy had they been coming here this week. They are going to take risks and try to win the game. It exposes them to big plays and a possible big Pats win but it also gives them a chance at their own big plays on both sides of the ball.
     
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    You're right on that count, but I would never complain about seeing a defensive gameplan which allows the Patriots to play to their strengths. Just because Brady has become a more vertical passer this year doesn't mean he's forgotten how to hit the quick routes and screens that were his bread and butter earlier in his career.

    That said, I think you can expect to see Merriman and Phillips coming most of the night, which leads me to believe you're going to see a lot more short passes, and that Welker will have a huge game.
     
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    John Clayton is a freaking tool...

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