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    Is this the end of the road for Slater? Slater finished #8 in special teams tackles for New England in 2009 with 7 stops ( 6 tackles, 1 assist ). He narrowly beat out Gostkowski who had 6 stops ( 5 tackles, 1 assist ), although Gostkowski had one recovered fumble, and Slater zero.

    Offensively, Slater had zero catches at WR. Defensively, Slater is at best, the #5 safety behind, Meriweather, Sanders, McGowan, and Chung. As a kick returner, Slater was tied for #34th in the NFL in yards per kickoff return. Slater does not return punts.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    And your stats indicate what, exactly?
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    I cant name a less inspiring pats KR in my lifetime then slater. Yet rarely did they change it up. Whenever they tried wheatley, slater was scared to lose his job so he always told wheatley to stay in the endzone.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    The stats help you decide. Should this be the end of the road for Slater? I am interested in your opinion.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    I think Arrington's emergence will probably push Slater off the roster.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Well, gee, maybe that's because they didn't draft him specifically to be a kick returner? :rolleyes:
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    1. Slater has no place on the team aside from special teams.
    2. Slater has no place on the team as a kick returner. He's terrible.

    Therefore, if Slater has a future on the team, it's purely as a ST gunner. The question is how long he can stay on the team in that role, given other guys like Lockett and Arrington who have more to offer in terms of positional support.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    I apologize. Now explain what the hell me saying hes uninspiring has to do with what they drafted him for. Hes a non threat with the ball plain and simple.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    This team is loaded with uninspired players who shouldn't be here.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Nothing. It's another Patsfan poster who gets defensive when you dare say anything negative about one of the players. Slater is terrible. The pats have had some hits in recent drafts, but have had just as many (if not more) misses.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    With Arrington, I hope he develops into good safety. This guys definitely has a nose for ball and knows how to tackle.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    No need to try and be smart, they simply indicate he bring ZERO to the party :)
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    I was amazed at the time that the Patriots traded up to get him

    considering that he had no position at all in college. His most

    noteworthy play was his fumble in the rain against Pittsburgh.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    As I see it, we currently have 4 safeties on the roster in Meriweather, Chung, Sanders and McGowan. If Bodden comes back we have 5 CBs in Bodden, Butler, Wheatley, Wilhite and Springs. So unless one of those guys gets cut/traded or we carry 10 DBs, there's no place on the roster for Arrington or Lockett unless they earn a spot as a pure STer, as Slater essentially did this season. I can't see us carrying more than one such guy given 3 other ST positoins used for K, P and LS.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Agreed. Slater is a poor to bad player.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    The fact that a) Wheatley was inactive pretty much every game.

    And b) If a player gets a ball 4 yards deep, it's unlikely he gets back to the 20 so they are always waved back by the up-returner also means that your facts are ridiculous.

    Slater is a very good Special Teamer. He and Arrington were the first 2 down there every game to end the season. They are a quick combo.

    Not to mention Slater's kick return against the Ravens.

    The first time he used his speed to switch the field and he gets to halfway. If he done that more often, he'd be better for it.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Explain Eric Alexander to me as well.

    Hell, i'd keep Adalius Thomas as a 4th ILB if we had to. With his body type, he can get his backside on Special Teams, he should be good at that.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Let him come to camp and compete with the rest of the scrubs. Who cares? Whoever wants it more, let's have some major competition and participation.

    I've got no problem taking a shot on potential but it mystify's me what we thought he had that dozens of cuts every year don't.

    Ditto except for the draft pick part. Let's throw them out there and keep the hungriest.

    Might be time to look for a special teams coach too. Anybody like the way teams looked this year?
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Teams are drafting Special Teams players in late rounds.

    If we'd taken Slater with the 6th round pick, would it have made a difference to you?

    There was obviously no-one we wanted left in the draft so does it matter where he was drafted anymore?

    He's an intelligent guy, runs hard and plays Special Teams very well.

    There's no point having 50 guys who are great in their position if they all suck at the 3rd phase of the game. You need 5 guys who can play Special Teams excellently to solve that phase of the game.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Hope so.Wasted spot on team.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Me? I said i had no problem using the pic. Having said that, what does this guy have to offer? Our special teams sucked. I'd rather see them have 25 guys compete for those slots and have guys that really want it bad survive than bestow slots on guys like Alexander and Slater and get what we got this year.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    No, it's another Patsfans poster who gets annoyed when people make misleading arguments based on one or two data points that don't tell the full story.

    As an example: besides K/P/LS, they kept FOUR players on the 45-man roster last year who basically did nothing but STs: Ventrone, Izzo, Slater, and Washington. Of those, only Slater is still here this year.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    I think we are in agreement that Arrington should be kept over Slater. I'm just curious if Arrington can be more than a special teamer ?
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    If Slater is retuning kicks for us next season...:mad:
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    If this is the end of the road when exactly did it start? The guys is barely the 53rd player on the roster, dime a dozen. Who gives a crap?

    Sincerely,

    Mr. Scrooge
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    Understood, but Slater is a terrible football player who does nothing for this team and will never make an impact worth noting. I know the truth to everything always lies somewhere in between, but with Slater, I really do think he's garbage. .
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    He was an ego pick.
    We stupidly traded up for him.....why?
    Now he gets a roster spot to justify it. Was supposed to be a return artist...Nyet!
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    Find me one credible quote attributed to Belichick saying that the Patriots specifically planned to use him as a KR or PR.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    SLater is a gunner, and is a lead blocker on returns. If you think thats nothing, you don't understand special teams.
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    Re: Slater end of the road?

    I fully understand that. But that's really all his value is right now, and there are other folks who can play gunner on ST. Is he really a good enough gunner to justify a roster spot for that alone?
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