i play pickup ball with couple of niner fans regularly. they just believe brady & entire pats organization are cheat. and they are very reasonable and smart guys outside of football. i told them brady is the greatest and they laughed it off.
here are what they've said
'Brady is a good player in a good situation. he is not even close to being the greatest'
'Pats are cheating organization. they got caught, and you should just deal with it.'
'i think brady knew about it and he probably did it. and it really changed the outcome of the game, but cheating is still cheating.'
'why would he destroy the phones? was it a coincidence? puahahahah'
'they got caught. it was measured and it was below the minimum. that's the proof.'
i asked them
'how did they get caught? why did they measure the ball in the half time. is that a standard procedure?
they didn't have a clue
i also asked them
'is jerry rice a cheater? you know he did stickum, right?'
both replied
'doesn't even matter. today's glove is stickier than stickum anyway. no big deal.'
again, outside of pats, they are very reasonable folks. i enjoy playing basketball with them.
but they become so unreasonable when it comes to pats. it seems like pats bring out the nasty in people.