Report: NFL Manipulated Concussion Research

[jah]

You don't think they read the New York Times?

If they don't care about the Ideal Gas Law, which seems to be the case, why would they read the news?

 

[fnordcircle]

If they don't care about the Ideal Gas Law, which seems to be the case, why would they read the news?

You're seriously equating caring about the laws of science with reading an article in the newspaper?

 

[jah]

You're seriously equating caring about the laws of science with reading an article in the newspaper?

Actually, the former is more important to the judges since it's pertinent to their case. So yes.

 

[Satchboogie3]

Angry NFL fires back at New York Times story

“The Times has found no direct evidence that the league took its strategy from Big Tobacco.” Despite that concession, the Times published pages of innuendo and speculation for a headline with no basis in fact.

Where have we seen this before?... So it's OK for the NFL to go based on just inference, but not for anyone else. Got it.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Angry NFL fires back at New York Times story

“The Times has found no direct evidence that the league took its strategy from Big Tobacco.” Despite that concession, the Times published pages of innuendo and speculation for a headline with no basis in fact.

Where have we seen this before?... So it's OK for the NFL to go based on just inference, but not for anyone else. Got it.

The NYT found it more probable than not that the NFL is using the Big Tobacco strategy. The NFL can dispute these findings, but only by appealing to the author and editor behind this very article , who will certainly conclude that they did nothing wrong.

 

[raduray]

NY Times response to NFL's response:


NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(8/8) NFL studies never mentioned that some teams didn't participate. Yet their numbers were included, producing lower concussion rates.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(7/8) "Times insinuates NFL hired Mitchell ... because of experience in tobacco litigation." Article did not say how or why she was hired.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(6/8) NFL says participation in study wasn't mandated. At least one of the papers said it was, in fact, mandated. http://nyti.ms/1T7ZyfQ

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(5/8) "League has never participated in any joint lobbying efforts with Tobacco Institute." Our article did not claim that.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(4/8) "Story claims the league relied on legal advice from Lorillard and Tobacco Institute." Our article did not claim that.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(3/8) "Studies never claimed to be based on every concussion that was reported ..." Studies and peer review statements did claim that.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(2/8) "The Times claims that the concussion studies ... purposely relied on faulty ..." Our article did not claim that.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(1/8) Our next few tweets will address the @NFL's statement about the article (http://nyti.ms/1T7ZyfQ) we published Thursday morning ...

 

[BelichickFan]

CTE research proponent: Goodell lying about football's risks

“Goodell’s lying so frequently that I almost don’t think it matters anymore.”

Someday the NFL will lose a lawsuit so big the entire thing will go out of business.

 

[scott99]

North Korea in 2020!

The amazing thing is, the leader of that country is less corrupt and more truthful than Goodell.

 

[Ivan]

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CTE research proponent: Goodell lying about football's risks

“Goodell’s lying so frequently that I almost don’t think it matters anymore.”

.

Where have we seen this before?


I don't care how much money the NFL is making having a commissioner who is so openly dishonest, has zero credibility, and absolutely no integrity is terrible for the game. Robert Kraft is on crack if he thinks Goodell is "doing a great job."

 

[scott99]

NY Times response to NFL's response:


NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(8/8) NFL studies never mentioned that some teams didn't participate. Yet their numbers were included, producing lower concussion rates.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(7/8) "Times insinuates NFL hired Mitchell ... because of experience in tobacco litigation." Article did not say how or why she was hired.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(6/8) NFL says participation in study wasn't mandated. At least one of the papers said it was, in fact, mandated. http://nyti.ms/1T7ZyfQ

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(5/8) "League has never participated in any joint lobbying efforts with Tobacco Institute." Our article did not claim that.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(4/8) "Story claims the league relied on legal advice from Lorillard and Tobacco Institute." Our article did not claim that.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(3/8) "Studies never claimed to be based on every concussion that was reported ..." Studies and peer review statements did claim that.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(2/8) "The Times claims that the concussion studies ... purposely relied on faulty ..." Our article did not claim that.

NYT Sports ‏@NYTSports 3h3 hours ago
(1/8) Our next few tweets will address the @NFL's statement about the article (http://nyti.ms/1T7ZyfQ) we published Thursday morning ...

Wow, did the NFL even READ that article ?

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Wow, did the NFL even READ that article ?

They're probably banking on people just reading the headlines that the NFL disputes the article.

 

[BelichickFan]

Kraft doubles down on being 1 of the 32 :

Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry 12m12 minutes ago
Kraft was asked about today's NYT report. "Any contact sport...there are going to be concussions...I think the game has never been safer."

Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry 10m10 minutes ago
Told that the NFL acknowledged the reporting was incomplete, Kraft replied: "Inaccurate. Inaccurate. They just put out a 50-pg reply to it."

Hey Kraft - GO F*CK YOURSELF - the Wells Report was more than 50 pages. BFD.

 

[Clonamery]

Kraft doubles down on being 1 of the 32 :

Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry 12m12 minutes ago
Kraft was asked about today's NYT report. "Any contact sport...there are going to be concussions...I think the game has never been safer."

Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry 10m10 minutes ago
Told that the NFL acknowledged the reporting was incomplete, Kraft replied: "Inaccurate. Inaccurate. They just put out a 50-pg reply to it."

Hey Kraft - GO F*CK YOURSELF - the Wells Report was more than 50 pages. BFD.

He really just needs to stop speaking about events and issues publicly for awhile.

 

[Mack Herron]

Kraft doubles down on being 1 of the 32 :

Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry 12m12 minutes ago
Kraft was asked about today's NYT report. "Any contact sport...there are going to be concussions...I think the game has never been safer."

Phil Perry ‏@PhilAPerry 10m10 minutes ago
Told that the NFL acknowledged the reporting was incomplete, Kraft replied: "Inaccurate. Inaccurate. They just put out a 50-pg reply to it."

Hey Kraft - GO F*CK YOURSELF - the Wells Report was more than 50 pages. BFD.

Kraft just isn't the sharpest blade in the drawer. We won't get our picks back, but the 32 are headed for a big fall.

 

[RecoveringCowboy]

He really just needs to stop speaking about events and issues publicly for awhile.

You think Kraft is bad...there's a moronic motor mouth of an owner that needs to be mummified with duct tape in my neighborhood.

But, yes - less said would be better.

 

[Ivan]

Once again Kraft is on the wrong side. Screw him.

 

[BradyFTW!]

**** Kraft. You'd think he, of all people, would know to regard any and all NFL spin with intense skepticism. The fact that he's taking the league at its word here proves that he's (A) an idiot, (B) he values his 31 'buddies' (who apparently hate him) in the owners' club above all else (including the Pats, Brady, Belichick, and the fans) or (C) both. B is definitely the case. Still not sure if A is, I'm guessing not. If he seems like an idiot, it's only because we incorrectly assume that he cares about anything other than having Goodell and the other 31's backs, even as they **** all over him.

 

[VectorPrime]

The CTE issues and the NFL's involvement regarding them is going to end up going all the way up to the federal government. People are dying because of this sport and the NFL has blood on their hands by continually obstructing any look into it. In the end the NFL is going to be worrying about a situation much worse than a lawsuit.

 

[Patriot Missile]

You hear that NFL? That's the sound of the footsteps of the Feds getting closer. The word integrity you so like to use these last couple of years is coming back to bite you.

 

[ANGR89]

Congress wants answers and documents from the nfl....
Congress to NFL: Explain actions on research