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They are coming out of the woodwork...
Multiple names in multiple threads. We really need camp to start so the returning "regulars" can drown this stuff out.
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Im willing to be an ass to defend my QB, that forums make fun of. Brees is a good guy and worth it.
Threes nor reason to pick on him.
I know we are not changing anyone. But after so many negative post, really ? You thought Id never comment after 100 post ?
Guess I should start a Brady sucks thread, in our forum and see who shows.
I respect you and your opinions Pherein as always but I am a little surprised on Brees demands for such a huge contract.
I always thought Brees was a team player but apparently he thinks more of his financial future than for the near future of the Saints.
I believe that with contracts of this nature,somewhere down the line the Saints are going to lose a lot of talent on their roster because they will be in cap hell within 5 years IMO.
Kind of like Peyton with the Colts who you could see talent bit by bit draining year after year.
Brees is a great QB and deserves to be highly rewarded for his services at QB of the Saints but he is being overpaid IMO.
Brady definitely doesn't suck... but... I do have to point out that when Matt Cassell stepped in for Brady, the team didn't miss a beat. He goes to another team and sucks balls. That tells me that the system is part of Brady's success.
Every time Brees is on the bench, his backup sucks - no matter who it is.
I just wanted to throw that out there as food for thought.
One more tidbit:
The same defense that held Brady and co to 17 points in the Superbowl was torched by Brees and co to the tune of 49 points. Both games in a dome.
They didn't miss a beat to the tune of missing the playoffs for the only time in the past 9 years despite playing the easiest schedule in the NFL. Are you joking, or hopelessly ignorant of the situation and football in general?
If you think that "The same defense that held Brady and co to 17 points in the Superbowl was torched by Brees and co to the tune of 49 points. Both games in a dome." is a valid argument, then it must be the latter. Please go back to wherever you came from, because clearly you have nothing of value to contribute here.
Expected reply, given the forum.
No team goes 16-0 twice in a row.
2002 - 9-7 with Brady
2003 - 14-2 (First game got shut-out and beaten by the man whose job was stolen by Brady, and yes, I know the last was the exact opposite)
2004 - 14-2 with Brady
2005 - 11-5 with Brady
2006 - 12-4 with Brady
2007 - 16-0 with Brady
2008 - 11-5 (only loses to 5 "good" teams)
2009 - 10-6 with Brady
2010 - 14-2 with Brady
2011 - 13-3 with Brady
Yup... I still say "never missed a beat". 11-5 is a very respectable record - dang near ensures a play-off berth. The ONLY reason they DIDN'T make the playoffs that year is because the Dolphins had the tie breaker for the division and the Ravens had the tie breaker for the wildcard. RARELY does an 11-5 team not make the playoffs.
And "week schedule"?
They played Miami twice (the div winner), got beat handily once, and thumped them hard the second time (with Cassel.. remember this). Their opponents had a combined win/loss of 123/121 (over .500).
However... in there "famed" 16-0 season, the one right before it that you imply was a "tougher schedule" (if the next year was so easy), their opponents combined win/loss is 120/136 (under .500).
I'm not trying to "diss on Brady". I am only merely pointing out facts. Brady is a great QB, one of the few "elites", and deserves his paycheck. As is/was (jusy is still out on how he comes back from that surgery) Manning - but also, as is Brees. Personally, until I see what Matt Flynn can do in Seattle, I put the same stigma on Rodgers (but to an even greater degree given Flynn only had one game, the team he played, and the importance of the game to the team he played).
If Chase Daniels, or even Mark Brunnell in previous years, could just get some points (or even just positive yardage in the 4th quarter situations they may be put in when NO is 30 points up), then I wouldn't feel as strongly as I do, but they can't/haven't. N.O. SUCKS without Drew. N.E. was actually pretty decent still without Tom. Gotta hand it to Belichick. He knows how to build a winning TEAM. Remember what happened last year, to the Colts... when THE star was out? That would have been this years Saints had Drew not played. Given your logic, that should have been 2008's Patriots. But it wasn't...
Expected reply, given the forum.
No team goes 16-0 twice in a row.
2002 - 9-7 with Brady
2003 - 14-2 (First game got shut-out and beaten by the man whose job was stolen by Brady, and yes, I know the last was the exact opposite)
2004 - 14-2 with Brady
2005 - 11-5 with Brady
2006 - 12-4 with Brady
2007 - 16-0 with Brady
2008 - 11-5 (only loses to 5 "good" teams)
2009 - 10-6 with Brady
2010 - 14-2 with Brady
2011 - 13-3 with Brady
Yup... I still say "never missed a beat". 11-5 is a very respectable record - dang near ensures a play-off berth. The ONLY reason they DIDN'T make the playoffs that year is because the Dolphins had the tie breaker for the division and the Ravens had the tie breaker for the wildcard. RARELY does an 11-5 team not make the playoffs.
And "week schedule"?
They played Miami twice (the div winner), got beat handily once, and thumped them hard the second time (with Cassel.. remember this). Their opponents had a combined win/loss of 123/121 (over .500).
However... in there "famed" 16-0 season, the one right before it that you imply was a "tougher schedule" (if the next year was so easy), their opponents combined win/loss is 120/136 (under .500).
I'm not trying to "diss on Brady". I am only merely pointing out facts. Brady is a great QB, one of the few "elites", and deserves his paycheck. As is/was (jusy is still out on how he comes back from that surgery) Manning - but also, as is Brees. Personally, until I see what Matt Flynn can do in Seattle, I put the same stigma on Rodgers (but to an even greater degree given Flynn only had one game, the team he played, and the importance of the game to the team he played).
If Chase Daniels, or even Mark Brunnell in previous years, could just get some points (or even just positive yardage in the 4th quarter situations they may be put in when NO is 30 points up), then I wouldn't feel as strongly as I do, but they can't/haven't. N.O. SUCKS without Drew. N.E. was actually pretty decent still without Tom. Gotta hand it to Belichick. He knows how to build a winning TEAM. Remember what happened last year, to the Colts... when THE star was out? That would have been this years Saints had Drew not played. Given your logic, that should have been 2008's Patriots. But it wasn't...
Expected reply, given the forum.
No team goes 16-0 twice in a row.
2002 - 9-7 with Brady
2003 - 14-2 (First game got shut-out and beaten by the man whose job was stolen by Brady, and yes, I know the last was the exact opposite)
2004 - 14-2 with Brady
2005 - 11-5 with Brady
2006 - 12-4 with Brady
2007 - 16-0 with Brady
2008 - 11-5 (only loses to 5 "good" teams)
2009 - 10-6 with Brady
2010 - 14-2 with Brady
2011 - 13-3 with Brady
Yup... I still say "never missed a beat". 11-5 is a very respectable record - dang near ensures a play-off berth. The ONLY reason they DIDN'T make the playoffs that year is because the Dolphins had the tie breaker for the division and the Ravens had the tie breaker for the wildcard. RARELY does an 11-5 team not make the playoffs.
And "week schedule"?
They played Miami twice (the div winner), got beat handily once, and thumped them hard the second time (with Cassel.. remember this). Their opponents had a combined win/loss of 123/121 (over .500).
However... in there "famed" 16-0 season, the one right before it that you imply was a "tougher schedule" (if the next year was so easy), their opponents combined win/loss is 120/136 (under .500).
I'm not trying to "diss on Brady". I am only merely pointing out facts. Brady is a great QB, one of the few "elites", and deserves his paycheck. As is/was (jusy is still out on how he comes back from that surgery) Manning - but also, as is Brees. Personally, until I see what Matt Flynn can do in Seattle, I put the same stigma on Rodgers (but to an even greater degree given Flynn only had one game, the team he played, and the importance of the game to the team he played).
If Chase Daniels, or even Mark Brunnell in previous years, could just get some points (or even just positive yardage in the 4th quarter situations they may be put in when NO is 30 points up), then I wouldn't feel as strongly as I do, but they can't/haven't. N.O. SUCKS without Drew. N.E. was actually pretty decent still without Tom. Gotta hand it to Belichick. He knows how to build a winning TEAM. Remember what happened last year, to the Colts... when THE star was out? That would have been this years Saints had Drew not played. Given your logic, that should have been 2008's Patriots. But it wasn't...
Multiple names in multiple threads. We really need camp to start so the returning "regulars" can drown this stuff out.
I'm not suprised by any of these responses...
Just know that the only one(s) you're kidding are yourselves.
g'day.
I'm not suprised by any of these responses...
Just know that the only one(s) you're kidding are yourselves.
g'day.
I respect you and your opinions Pherein as always but I am a little surprised on Brees demands for such a huge contract.
I always thought Brees was a team player but apparently he thinks more of his financial future than for the near future of the Saints.
I believe that with contracts of this nature,somewhere down the line the Saints are going to lose a lot of talent on their roster because they will be in cap hell within 5 years IMO.
Kind of like Peyton with the Colts who you could see talent bit by bit draining year after year.
Brees is a great QB and deserves to be highly rewarded for his services at QB of the Saints but he is being overpaid IMO.