- Joined
- Dec 23, 2004
- Messages
- 5,250
- Reaction score
- 877
Registered Members experience this forum ad and noise-free.
CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.This isn't a commentary on Reiss. However, the way the media is already reacting (by retracting the "Manning GOAT" assertion after he choked tonight) is exactly what I've been complaining about for the past two weeks. The media is about as fickle as it gets, latching onto the Flavor of the Month. I really just wish everyone would wait until these two retire to compare them and then decide who is the best.
Every regular season, Manning wows the ballwashers, both in the media and elsewhere. It takes the playoffs for them to get their reminders of the true order of the QB pyramid.
Though I don't think you're getting me wrong on this (you and I are usually on the same wavelength), I think I should clarify that, by the time they finish their careers, Brady will be looked at as the better QB. By a comfortable margin, I might add.
I agree. One more SB win and the only question is Brady/Montana for the GOAT. Manning shouldn't even be in that conversation, and I've been saying that for years.
Manning's in the top 10-15. Slotting him in the top 5 is an insult to the best of the best.
I wouldn't have a gripe with putting him in the top 10, just because of his statistical accomplishments. But I would not put him in the top 5.
Though I don't think you're getting me wrong on this (you and I are usually on the same wavelength), I think I should clarify that, by the time they finish their careers, Brady will be looked at as the better QB. By a comfortable margin, I might add.
I wouldn't have a gripe with putting him in the top 10, just because of his statistical accomplishments. But I would not put him in the top 5.
This isn't a commentary on Reiss. However, the way the media is already reacting (by retracting the "Manning GOAT" assertion after he choked tonight) is exactly what I've been complaining about for the past two weeks. The media is about as fickle as it gets, latching onto the Flavor of the Month. I really just wish everyone would wait until these two retire to compare them and then decide who is the best.
sometimes having a head coach helps. i bet bb wouldve gone for the 4th and short with manning instead of trying a 51 FG when their defense was getting shredded by the saints.caldwell proved he doesnt make any decisions and just stands on the sideline..
Yeah, I broke it all down once, but I don't have the data all in front of me. I had him slotted in the 8-12 range, depending upon how I weighted certain factors. In no particular order, I've got him behind Brady, Starr, Graham, Baugh, Unitas, Montana and Staubach, and in a group with Elway, Young, Favre and Bradshaw.
Definitely- if their GOAT proclamations were so halfhearted that one bad game could make them pull a 180, then what does that say about how they went about making those decisions in the first place?
On the other hand, Payton screwed the pooch on the 3rd/4th and goal.
i agree with kon. i dont think anyone ever thought manning was a better clutch player than brady.
and brady has made his fair share of mistakes in games. threw a big int in the end zone in the super bowl v panthers.
manning is great, brady is great. you get either one of them your franchise wins for a decade and doubles in value