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    Randy Moss says he's the greatest receiver ever - Extra Points - Boston.com


    In Super Bowl media day's first bombshell, San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Randy Moss called himself the greatest wide receiver of all-time.

    "I don't live off numbers," Moss said, noting he has had down years, including this year, his time in Oakland, and before he first retired. "I live off impact. So I really do think that I'm the greatest receiver to play this game."

    Hall of fame receiver Jerry Rice, via Adam Schefter, responded saying, "Put my numbers up against his numbers."​
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    LOL ... go Randy ... it's Super bowl time and if I were him I'd be thinking the same thing to get fired up.
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    bet rice is all butt hurt now :D
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    And he is correct. Unfortunately, he did not have the greatest career ever... that would be Jerry Rice.
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    Lol at Rice being a little snippy. Minnesota Randy Moss is the greatest WR of all time. If he tried his whole career, he could've had Jerry Rice stats. :(
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    In his prime...? A case could be made.
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    Moss had 50 TDs with NE in 4 years..about 3,900 yards. Minn was his best becasue he was there the longest.

    But tie His Minn and NE days...and wow look at those stats
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    I don't think Moss is #1, but I don't think he needs to strain his neck to see #1 from where he's standing, either.
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    Big whoop. By this date next year, our 24 year old TE will have matched or EXCEEDED those 4 year Patriots numbers of Moss.

    ......and Moss has one less ring than Peyton Manning.

    As a fan of Tom Brady, I can understand why Jerry Rice is laughing.
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    His 2 or 3 best seasons are up there with anybody's 2 or 3 best seasons,

    but when it comes to an entire career and looking at constant production, Jerry Rice is on top and to say randy is even close is just plain nuts.
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    Randy may very well be the most talented and gifted WR of all time. IMHO, Rice, Jerry Rice is the GOAT...
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    Look at these stats though:

    Jerry Rice NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

    It's nice that Randy averaged scoring 12 touchdowns a year over 4 consecutive years,

    Jerry Rice averaged scoring 11 touchdowns a year over 16 consecutive years, 1986-2002 (not counting the 1997 season he lost to injury).
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    J Rice had the benefit of paying almost all of his career with 2 HOF QB's. Moss spent the prime of his career with Culpepper and flotsam in Oakland.

    Just sayin
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    This is my take. I mean, you have Wes Welker breaking records over here and you have Megatron breaking records over there and Moss breaking that record over there. Three different type receivers with one thing in common: Their records were all formerly held by Rice.

    As a Pats fan, I have to correct you: Montana had the benefit of playing with Rice, the best receiver ever, most of his career while Brady only had Moss, the second best receiver, for two whole years. Just sayin'. ;)
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    Once again, a 24 year old kid next year will complete a matching (or exceeding) of Moss' 4 year Brady numbers. And the kid is a far better blocker than Moss ever was.

    In fact, Randy Moss is the THIRD best WR Brady ever threw to.

    Check any stats you want. Head to head (other than TDs' - - and yes, that is a big one I agree) Welker out performed Moss over the 4 years they were teammates.

    Same 4 Years Catching from Brady:

    Moss: 259 Rec 3,904 Yds 50 TD
    Welker: 432 Rec 4,536 Yds 22 TD

    And Welker fielded punts.
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    Well the 24 year old kid, if he is healthy enough to have a long career may be the GOAT at his position.

    Apples and Oranges. My guess is that the TPC are very different for the 2 players.
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    Rice is the GOAT but Moss in his prime was the most devastating receiver to play the game. I would compare him to Lawrence Taylor in that regard. Other LB's had longer careers with better numbers but no LB ever played at the level he played at. Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders would be another example.

    It would actually be an interesting exercise to come up with an all time team based on the most impactful players.
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    You cannot divide Randy's Patriots numbers by 4 years.
    He played 3.25 years here
    50 / 3.25 = 15.38 TDs per year

    Also if Randy played the same number of years with a HOF QB that Rice did, Randy would've had even better numbers.

    On Rice's benefit though, the league is alot more receiver friendly now than it was 20 years ago.
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    It's his OWN fault that he missed the last 3/4's of his 4th year here.

    That happened to be the same year Welker played a full season 7 months out from an ACL AND MCL tear. That year for Welker is also included in the 4 year comparisons to Moss. That wouldn't have handicapped Welker's numbers some that year?

    Spare me about the greatness of Randy Moss. He WAS great. The 3rd greatest WR or TE Brady ever threw to.

    Rice has 4 rings. Moss is a Ringless Wonder.

    Please.

    Now if you want to state that Randy Moss was the most TALENTED WR ever to play, then there would be a good argument to be made for that.

    He burned his way out of Minnesota. He burned his way out of Oakland. He burned his way out of NE. And today at SB Media Day he pulled this crap 'I hate the way I'm being used by the Niners'.
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    Since they played in slightly different eras, let's compare them to their peers.


    Receptions
    Rice: 1st 2x; 2nd 4x; top-5 9x; top-10 12x
    Moss: 1st 0x; 2nd 1x; top-5 2s; top-10 3x

    Receiving Yards
    Rice: 1st 6x; 2nd 2x; top-5 11x; top-10 12x
    Moss: 1st 0x; 2nd 3x; top-5 7x; top-10 8x

    Receiving Touchdowns
    Rice: 1st 6x; 2nd 1x; top-5 11x; top-10 12x
    Moss: 1st 5x; 2nd 0x; top-5 8x; top-10 9x


    Best single seasons, as ranked all-time in NFL history
    Rice, 1995: 4th in receptions (122), 2nd in yards (1848), 19th in TD (15)
    Moss, 2007: 81st in receptions (98), 36th in yards (1493), 1st in TD (23)

    Other single-season marks
    Rice has six of the top-40 seasons in NFL history for receiving yards
    Moss has three of the top-5 seasons in NFL history for TD receptions
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