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Pioli's Last 2 Drafts have been Horrible!

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  1. National Sports Advisors

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    Look at Mr. Pioli's superb drafts the last 2 years..........NOT!!! This guy is in a MAJOR SLUMP with our draft picks, my friends. It is Bobby Grier-esque!! We better keep trading draft picks away for the Randy Moss's and Wes Welker's of the world, because we will most likely draft STIFFS if we keep the picks!! You can make excuses all you want folks, but these last two drafts are HORRIBLE. Good thing we lost a #1 pick for spygate. Otherwise, we would just draft another guy that will make NO CONTRIBUTION whatsoever for the first 2 years of their career like Chad Jackson. Ugh!!:mad:

    2006 NFL DRAFT
    1 21 (21) Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota(DUD)
    2 4-d (36) Chad Jackson, WR, Florida(BUST)
    3 22 (86) David Thomas, TE, Texas(STIFF)
    4 9-b (106) Garret Mills, TE, Tulsa(STIFF)
    4 21 (118) Stephen Gostkowski, K, Memphis(GOOD)
    5 3-c (136) Ryan O'Callaghan , OT, California(JAG)
    6 22-* (191) Jeremy Mincey, OL/DE, Florida(STIFF)
    6 36-* (205) Dan Stevenson, OL, Notre Dame(STIFF)
    6 37 (206) Le Kevin Smith, NT, Nebraska(STIFF)
    7 21 (209) Willie Andrews, CB/S, Baylor(JAG)

    2007 NFL DRAFT
    1 24 (24) Brandon Meriweather S Miami (FL)(JURY OUT)
    4 28 (127) Kareem Brown DT Miami (FL)(CUT)
    5* 34 (171) Clint Oldenburg OL Colorado State University(JAG)
    6 6 (180) Justin Rogers DE Southern Methodist University(JAG)
    6 28 (202) Mike Richardson CB Notre Dame(IR)
    6* 34 (208) Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State(BUM)
    6* 35 (209) Corey Hilliard T Oklahoma State(BUM)
    7 1 (211) Oscar Lua ILB USC(BUM)
    7* 37 (247) Mike Elgin OL University of Iowa(BUM)
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    Gostkowski is solid.
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    Can't agree with you here at all. Thomas looks like a special player. Unfortunately he had a setback this year, but so did Watson his first year on the job. Your reactionary bullcrap (oh no this 7th round pick didn't pan out, and this 3rd rounder is on the team but hasn't broken any of Jerry Rice's receiving records yet!) is a little out of control.
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    And that's about it. No steals. No IMPACT PLAYERS. No nothing. The 1st rd picks have been ordinary and the rest have been garbage, outside of Gostowski. Terrible drafts. Bobby Grier-esque.:mad:
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    National sports advisers, I'm starting to think you wear that same tinfoil hat while your writing these posts that mangini has in the bang cartoons.
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    Hey dum-dum: I have left a message for you on the other thread where you posted the exact same idiocy. Go look at it.
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    This is an unbelievably stupid thread. If you have to have it explained to you why it's stupid, you aren't worth the oxygen.
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    Compating to Bobby Grier?? I think the poster is in a slump..NOT even close..this year's draft was not the best..maybe slim pickings considering how loaded this team was...BUT last year?? Look again how many are with the team...wait a few years..and then make your peanut gallery comments.
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    Please make it stop.
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    You're calling guys stiffs and JAGs when they're in positions that take time to learn and haven't cracked the lineup yet, or have been hurt.

    I didn't like it when Bruinz was calling you an idiot in that other thread, but man... Looks like there was a reason...
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    Drafts rate a C. Thomas, however, is a keeper.
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    The truth hurts. We are getting NOTHING out of either of these two drafts outside of a kicker and an AVERAGE running back. That is it. If that's ok with you guys, than MEDIOCRITY says hello in 2 years.:mad:
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    DRAFTS ARE HIT OR MISS, THE TEAM IS 11 AND 0 STOP YOUR COMPLAINING AND GO POUR YOURSELF A DRINK
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    Hey, people can call me whatever they want. The same people waiting for these guys to emerge are the same crew that kept waiting for Bethel Johnson to emerge. These drafts are garbage. :mad:
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    Dum-dum is angry: note the constant use of angry-face emoticons. Dum-dum needs some warm milk and maybe a nap. And he should definitely turn off his 'puter.
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    Clearly Scott Piolidoesn't know what he's doing. I mean, it has nothing to do with rookies learning the system and already having established veterans in front of them. :eek:
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    My troll senses are tingling. Your words just don't sound genuine.
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    I can't believe no one has brought this up:
    2nd round: Wes Welker
    4th round: Randy Moss

    Yeah....terrible draft.
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    well you can't really argue that BB and SP dropped the ball when they took Maroney over Addai and when they traded up for Chad Jackson
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    I'm not going to even bother arguing with you, because something tells me you're not being serious.

    And if you are, do you not realize that most of the Pats' draft picks in the past two seasons have occurred in the 5th-7th rounds? If those guys make the roster over the talent that's currently on it, there's a serious problem.
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    maybe you just hit the nail on the head if there was garbage in the drafts how could we get good players, look at the whole body of work, free agents recent drafts, ther is none better than pioli go take a long walk and chill
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    "We are getting NOTHING out of either of these two drafts outside of a kicker and an AVERAGE running back. That is it"


    I agree with you BUT if you love the Pats you can't complain or your a whinner.
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    And yet we are 11-0, won the AFC East, headed into the playoffs with very few injuries and on pace to break numerous records.

    Time for your meds.
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    Wow! You spare no words in making yourself depressed. A troll? Maybe, since you seem to be on a roll right now with all your negative threads, and the team is 11-0. Good job, Chicken Little!

    Send your resume to Krafty. I'm sure he could use a talent evaluator like you!
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    Maybe Chad Jackson isn't doing so well because there are 4 established veteran receivers in front of him. Just a thought. I wouldn't worry so much about Maroney either. I have a feeling that in the end he'll work out for you just fine.
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    It's "whiner," Carolinatony, and he's a troll. Check dum-dum's posts and you'll see.
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    Isn't it a little early to be judging all the 2006 and 2007 drafts, particularly the 2007. Some of these guys might be of real value their third or fourth year. Keep in mind knocking out a Pats starter is pretty hard these days.

    And don't forget the 6th round pick in 2000 did jack for the team his first year and for the first couple of week his second year, but in the end he was a pretty good pick up (for a 6th rounder).

    maybe you need to give these guy a bit more time before you make a final judgment.
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    You have to include trades involving draft picks as well if you're looking at this realistically. From the 2007 draft they've traded a late 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th rounder for what realistically looks like a Top 5 pick in 2008, Wes Welker, and Randy Moss.
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    WOW. Its amazing that you aren't working in the NFL since your talent evaluation skills are so much superior to that of BB and Pioli.

    What about the trades? You have to include them. The Pats picked up what is looking to be a top 10 pick for the 28th in this years draft. They also added Oakland's 3rd rounder (which should be in the top 10 of that round). Not to mention Randy Moss and Wes Welker.

    You ask ANY Personnel person in the NFL and they'll tell you that your an idiot for judging drafts before 3 years have passed. They'll also tell you that you can't just look at the players drafted. And the over all talent level of the 2007 draft wasn't exactly mind-blowing. In fact, many people thought it was a relatively weak draft.
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    I'm a fan of your work TGIAGH, but this guy is a troll and the "substance" of his posts should be ignored, or he'll keep on keepin on.
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