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    They are going to take a break from the Red Sox talk, instead of 24 hours of Sox talk it will be 23 hours and 50 minutes.
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    Dale andn holley usually do pretty well with the pats. Although with that said, they didn't have anyone on and haven't mentioned why not. On a side note, who edited my previous post and changed the URL? Here is the URL to listen online:

    http://www.surfmusic.de/radio-station/weei-850-am,6068.html
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    Why do all you guys whine so much about the Sox? The pats get plenty of talk during football season. They get there share. Not much Sox talk going on when pats season starts up. I have listened to EEI for years and years. I must be dreaming about all the football talk when the pats are actually playing. If you didn't notice it is kind of the heat of the baseball season for a team that has been playing in this city for close to 100 years. The whining about the Sox is pretty weak.

    People love the Pats here. Get over it. :rolleyes:
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    The MMS:// format allows you to listen in Windows Media player, without a separate IE/Firefox window.
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    It's not a whine, it's a valid observation. I have nothing against Red Sox talk during baseball season, but anyone who stays half-awake during football season, even after the World Series is over, will find the airwaves dominated (>75% at least) by Red Sox talk with endless trivial detail. It's not too much to ask a local sports outlet to try to make things even a little more equitable between the teams, especially when the most-discussed team is out of season. There were days last year, even during the NFL playoffs that more than half of the discussion was still centered around the Red Sox.
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    Your whining is weak, it's a known fact WEEI dictates the formats to be Red Sox because they have the radio rights, you must enjoy the dissecting of every play and move in a 162 game schedule, how exciting and enjoyable, the only time they talk Pats are when the Red Sox season is over, then they get right back at it with hot stove talk. Then into pre-spring training then into spring training.
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    WEEI has more sox talk, big surprise. However during the pats season they have plenty of Pats talk. Every Monday is "Patriots Monday" live from Gillette and they have interviews with Seymour, Rodney, Bru (dale and holley) and BB (the big show)...there may be more on D&C, but I don't listen to them. If one of those players is unavailable, then they get a replacement. Then they do a lot of the same on the Friday before the game. They talk Sox, but to say 75% Sox talk during the Pats season is bogus!
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    I have no problem posting the additional link (I have both) but don't edit my post to make it look like I did it...then delete what I posted and put your own in it's place. I actually prefer using the IE link as during the day I have to use WMP for other things and this way I don't have to go back and keep reloading it.

    There was no harm done, but it's just a matter of principle. Please don't edit what I post and change it to other info...that looks like it comes from me. Please if you feel the need to edit, just make a note next to it that you edited it...or in this case just add the additional link. :)
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    This yas often been claimed, yet this year (most) games moved down the dial. The result? More talk-radio time to dissect the Red Sox! :p Plus I haven't seen WEEI's vested interest in properties like the Revolution or BC Hockey ever translate into a single minute of air time.

    Like it or not, the level of Red Sox talk on the radio does reflect the level of Red Sox interest in the community. This doesn't mean there isn't heavy interest in the Patriots too, but they generally come second. And it took Kevin Garnett to even remind Boston it had a basketball team. Oh, hey, didn't there used to be a hockey team too? :confused:
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    The Patriots blow the Red Sox away when it comes to TV ratings, the fact is the majority of Pats Fans aren't whiny soap opera driven fans, those are the people who listen to WEEI and complain about every move a manager makes, the media likes to make this out a Red Sox town but the interest in the Pats is the same or greater, you can measure interest on WEEI talk.
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    The Patriots blow the Red Sox away in head-to-head programing, they beat them in exhibition season as well, they are just as popular as the Sox if not more, they just don't call and whine and dissect every move the manager or coach makes on WEEI, you don't measure fan interest by callers on WEEI, you must be a member of the fellowship of the miserable.
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    Good thing Pats fans don't, say, whine and dissect every play called by the offensive coordinator. ;)

    I'm happy to just say New England loves both teams. But it's disingenuous to compare the game-by-game TV ratings of 16 football games on broadcast TV to 162 baseball games on premium cable (not to mention the hordes who listen to the Sox on the radio -- baseball is much more of a radio sport).
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    No one is questioning that, good for them, but the fact is people have called to talk about the pats and have been told we are talking Red Sox, the hosts control the topic, and most times it's baseball, the Revolution and BC is so minimal in terms of gross revenue, they won't promote it, Pats Monday is worth more than those two combined, the facts are the facts but you have the right to sin any way you want to.
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    Come on, are you serious? Show me some numbers that would be comparable, like over a season. Per game I have no doubt that the Pats win, simply because they only have 16 games (regular season) and no-one will miss that one game a week, where the Sox usually play 6 times a week so it is more diluted. I miss Sox games, but i will never miss a Pats game.

    I love both, I prefer watching the pats...but let's keep it on the level here.
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    Per game basis the Patriots beat them it's a known fact how else to you judge it or can judge it.
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    This discussion over WEEI has lead nowhere in the past. While they do tend to talk more Sox, the facts can't be denied: Patriots Monday, The Football Show, Michael Holley, player interviews, Steve DeOssie, Fred Smerlas, and Paul Perillo.

    One thing is for sure, though:

    Get ready for Celtics talk!
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    That's what I just said...per game of course the Pats will win. There's 5 more Sox games a week than Pats games. I am saying that way of judging things is poor because they are not equal.
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    :ditto: :agree: :yeahthat:
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    It's a huge conspiracy!!!! :rolleyes:
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    Pretty fair comparison. Sox play 160 games the Pats play 16. I would love to see the ratings had the Pats not won three SB's.
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    Which is an excellent point I've brought up before. The Sox have a considerably firmer-planted history in the region. If the Pats had come in 1903 and the Sox in 1960, things would be different.
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    Which Patriot player was on WEEI and what did he say? Or, should we just keep talking about the *** ***?
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    Ironically, even Patriots Monday sometimes gets to be dominated with Red Sox talk when they're not interviewing Patriots players. For comparison, see if you hear any football mentioned on the Sunday baseball show.

    There's not much we can do about it, except not bothering to listen to WEEI if you're looking for football talk. I just wish that we had an alternative other than listening to Felger on 890 (although the PFW podcast is sometimes decent, if amateurish. The Murphy's Pub Patriots podcasts are even better).

    Well, at least the Globe is safe from the dreck of Borges.
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    A few things:

    WEEI does like to talk more Sox because they do still broadcast a lot of the games and their sister station broadcasts the rest. They still have a vested and financial interest in the Sox. They do have some with the Patriots, but not as much.

    Also, it is easier for them to talk baseball over football. You can easily get callers to discuss imaginary trades, pitching rotations, and line ups. I don't think it is as easy to generate discussions about football. WEEI is all about the low hanging fruit and will always go for the easy topic. That is why they will beat any hot button issue to the ground.

    It doesn't help that other than DeOssie and Smerlas (and the occassional appearance by Tom Curran), most of the guest on WEEI are not guys who can talk football. Sean McAdam might be brilliant talking baseball, but I don't know if he knows how many points you get for kicking a field goal. Felger has pretty much taken all of the other local guys who can talk football (Borges, Casale, Andy Hart, and John Tomase) and Mike Reiss is a Globe guy so he cannot get on WEEI. The only guy left is Albert Breer.

    As for which sport is more popular in this town, I think the popularity is a lot closer than people realize or willing to admit. In the past, preseason Pats games have gotten better ratings than a Soxgame goings head to head even when it was a Sox/Yankees game. It doesn't matter how many games each team plays, if the Sox were head and shoulders above the Patriots, there is no way a preseason game would get significantly better ratings than a regular season Sox game. I am pretty sure the Pats' apparel sales eclipse the Sox too.

    Where there is a major disparity of the fan base is with WEEI callers. WEEI callers make up a fairly small percentage of the overall listenership and they seem to be clearly dominantly Red Sox fans. I think part of the reason is Patriots fans have been turned away so much in the past that they don't even bother calling.

    What I will never forgive WEEI for is in 2003 when we were quitely mounting a 14-2 Super Bowl season, they spent virtually all of November and December of that year talking about an A-Rod Red Sox trade that never happened. Yes, the possibility was a huge story that year, but they would rather just rehash the same story day after day than give the Patriots even a little attention.
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    The problem is with that theory is that I don't think history prior to the "Impossible Dream" season in 1967 means much of anything. The Sox were not popular in the early to mid sixties at all. The traditions of Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, etc. couldn't get people to come to the games during that era. Also, the Celtics were arguably more popular than the Sox during the mid 80s' Bird, Parrish, McHale era.

    I think the tide is definitely shifting. Baseball is not engrained into kids brains as they were back 10 or 20 years ago. Fewer and fewer kids are playing Little League (the numbers show that the number of kids who play Little League go down every year).

    Teenagers of today were raised on Bledsoe, Parcells, Willie, Law, Brady, Belichick, etc. I don't know if they are clearly Red Sox fans first like their parents probably are.

    A few more titles for the Pats and the Red Sox have a few seasons where they don't make the playoffs and I can definitely see this town turning into a football town. A large part of any teams' fanbase are front runners and fairweather fans. All you have to do is look at the Celtics to see that.
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    It's equal do you want to watch the Sox or Patriots, number of games has nothing to do with it, would you watch a Patriots game or a Red Sox game? I bet I know the answer.
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    There is a new generation of people, what about the old bruins fans or the old Celtics, during the 70's it was a Bruin town, 80'S was Celtics, it changes mostly on how well the teams are doing, but I will again say that WEEI way over does the Red Sox, if the hosts mixed it up it would be a nice mixture, but they make it all Red Sox and everyone follows, plus they wont let you on the air if you want to say something, enough said.
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    !!! This would ASTONISH me. I actually try to keep an informal tally of Sox/Pats gear I see worn around town and I'd estimate it runs two or three to one in favor of the Sox.

    Personally, I'm a Patriots fan first and foremost. I'd love to hear, say, pre-draft analyses of Pats targets on the radio. I just don't believe in the conspiracy theory that all of the various media outlets are out to artificially whip up interest in the Sox and keep the Patriots down. The Red Sox love in this town is for real. But Rob, I also agree that this is a major factor:

    Most mid-level sports fans, I think, understand baseball better than football. So a topic like "which of the RT candidates is best suited to a zone blocking scheme" will send listeners away in droves.
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    This response competely ignores the point of the other post. You really don't think the fact that the Sox play 5-6 times a week and the Pats only once doesn't factor into things? Demand and supply. The supply of Sox games is much higher so fans are willing to forego one out of 6 Sox games to see the only Pats game - even if the demand for the Pats is lower this would still be the case. The TV ratings are a very poor indicator of fans preferences in this case.
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