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  1. JR4

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    Boy - this is really going to ruin your day if that troubles you... no need to open links with this threat:

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    Take a deep breath and...

    relax. these behaviors *should* be standard operating procedure by now. some say the threat is not very serious...

    http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=10677

    if you disagree, there is a patch that can be installed while you are waiting for microsoft to release their update next week...

    http://www.hexblog.com/2005/12/wmf_vuln.html

    here's MS's analysis...

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/912840.mspx
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    Is there anyone else as cynical as I am convinced that many of the viruses are actually created by anti-virus software companies?
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    Your "RELAX" advice is nice but many casual users who use search engines
    may end up at sites with corrupt images and they won't be so relaxed.

    Relax if you are confident you are protected otherwise be extra careful
    until you have the patch. No I won't put a patch on my computer from
    a source other than Microsoft.
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    #24 Jersey

    Wow, a major security flaw in windows? Who woulda thunk it. Next you're going to tell me that the Jets imploded and went 4-12 this year...

    ...oh wait, they did.
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    If you're afraid to open anything send it to me. Using OS X I've always wanted to see what a virus looks like. :D
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    OS X is not safe...

    Hey wiseacre, OS X is just as, or more vulnerable; its just so insignificant that few bother to write virtuses, worms and adware to infect it. Sorry to bust your bubble, but Macintosh is increasingly seeing virus attacks; its just that the virus dorks usually spend their efforts on Windows first.

    As for OS X, it just hasn't had very many development dollars invested in it. It is full of un-exploited security holes, that little attention has been directed at, TO DATE. It is no criticism of Apple, they just didn't and don't have the resources. But it is a fine effort for what it is, Release 1.0 of a Mach kernel based, fully pre-emptive, multi tasked, multi-user OS.

    Its basis is just like modern Windows, post Windows 98 which is also a Mach kernal based, fully preemptive, multi-tasked, multi-user OS with symetric multiprocessing. Windows XP is now in its fifth full release, with multiple sub-releases developed over the last ten years. Hundreds of millions if not billion of dollars have been invested in its development. And the dorks still find weaknesses. As they are found the holes are closed.

    Being temporarily overlooked is no security, when there are multitudes of holes if anyone directed their attention to it.
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    This seems like a mixed message to me. We should get a grip and relax because the threat isn't serious, AND we should already have been so scared by less serious threats that we weren't loading any images or visiting any new websites?

    Avoiding new websites can't be "standard operating procedure" for me -- I'm a writer, and the book I'm researching requires looking at websites around the world. I've always maintained a pretty high security level, but this new exploit has forced me to change my browsing behavior significantly. IMHO, it is different.
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    How many Microsoft programmers does it take to put in a lightbulb?

    We won't know for 2 weeks.

    Fortunately, some Russian guy put one in so they can at least see what they're doing. :rolleyes:
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    Good points Patchick. Just one suggestion. If you depend on being able to browse teh web you might consider symantic's "GoBack" program if you don't
    already have it. This program has saved me on several occassions.
    Essentially it allows you to restore your computer to a previous point in time.
    It cost like $50 but well worth it.
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    Yeah but I wouldn't put any patch on computer without knowing how they
    tested it and what side effect it maight cause. Especially from Russia.
    No Thanks ... I'll just wait. It seems like 10 days is a long time but not
    if they do it right and make all the tests they will need to do on their
    mulit million lines of existing code.
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    The hexblog patch has been source-checked by independent experts, and quite frankly the likely side effects are a shadow of what could happen to an unprotected system. I installed it and recommend you do too. It's not easy to prevent a .wmf image from getting onto your system. If it gets downloaded it doesn't even have to be viewed -- the indexing service (for the "Find" command) or something similar such as Google toolbar triggers the vulnerability as it's checking your hard drive and indexing the contents. I have heard of such images being sent via instant messaging, too.

    Right now the only known exploits load tons of spyware and adware onto your system, but now this is becoming so well known it probably won't be long before really nasty stuff is delivered.
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    Linux power!
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    I'll have to send that joke over to the Russian programmer down the hall from me here at the Evil Empire where I work. I'm sure he'd get kick out of it... :D
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    Hmmm... gee. Now, maybe had they not done this publically - and actually waited until after a fix was ready - maybe this wouldn't be as much of a massive threat?

    What a bunch of ignorant twits calling themselves "security researchers".
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    You're not "busting my bubble" or telling me anything I didn't already know (even if you are very much generalizing). I'm very familiar with how it all works. I was even an Apple employee for a few years. I know the reason I have never got a virus or had my Mac exploited in the 19 years I've been using them is because no one bothers to do it. But, that's fine with me. :D
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    Is this similar to the built in system restore I have on my XP?
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    yes

    I used to use Norton...years ago

    Norton causes as many problems as it supposedly solves IMO
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    Actually, "GoBack" was implemented by a company called Roxio I think.
    They sold it to Symantec. Never known anyone to have a problem with
    GoBack. Know several who have been saved by it including myself.

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