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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Really? I thought it was abject garbage and only gave it 2 stars thanks to Scarlett Johansson's captivating beauty. Mind you, I do like a lot of the actors in the movie.Awesome find! Seeing how the topic is the movie I highly recommend it to those of you who love movies. Best superhero movie I've seen since the Dark Knight.
The Dark Knight Rises was much more of an insult. Apparently Nolan had built up enough credit with the first two that people are willing to ignore how much of a mess the third one is.Really? I thought it was abject garbage and only gave it 2 stars thanks to Scarlett Johansson's captivating beauty. Mind you, I do like a lot of the actors in the movie.
IMO, I consider it a slap to the face of the Nolan Batman trilogy (The Dark Knight is incredible on so many levels) to even mention the two franchises in the same breath.
The Dark Knight Rises was much more of an insult. Apparently Nolan had built up enough credit with the first two that people are willing to ignore how much of a mess the third one is.
Edit: I'm genuinely curious how The Dark Knight would have been viewed had Ledger not died.
I'd argue it was more than a little. The box office, for example, received a massive bump from the first movie (over $300M more!!!), and then TDKR made nearly $100M less. No sequel has ever behaved even remotely close to that before or since. I don't think that's a coincidence.Probably still the same. That's still the best superhero movie of all time regardless of what happens with Ledger. All that you have added in with his demise is a little sprinkle of dead hero worship.
I thought you were speaking from a quality standpoint and not a financial standpoint. Financially, there is no doubt the movie benefitted from Ledger's death. But, from a quality standpoint, he crushed that role and the role would have been remembered favorably whether he passed away or not.I'd argue it was more than a little. The box office, for example, received a massive bump from the first movie (over $300M more!!!), and then TDKR made nearly $100M less. No sequel has ever behaved even remotely close to that before or since. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Then again, I don't consider TDK to be the greatest superhero movie ever, either. It had serious flaws, but was still a great movie.
I don't disagree about his role, he was amazing. I mean how the movie was received overall. I think his performance and the sadness of his last film served to cover up a lot of flaws.I thought you were speaking from a quality standpoint and not a financial standpoint. Financially, there is no doubt the movie benefitted from Ledger's death. But, from a quality standpoint, he crushed that role and the role would have been remembered favorably whether he passed away or not.
Just out of curiosity, what do you consider the best superhero movie of all time?
So you're a Marvel guy, then.I don't disagree about his role, he was amazing. I mean how the movie was received overall. I think his performance and the sadness of his last film served to cover up a lot of flaws.
To answer your question, I'd say the first Avengers movie. I'd also put Winter Soldier, Civil War, and probably Spider-Man 2 over TDK. Then again, I think that Batman Begins was the best of that trilogy.
Not to the exclusion of DC, no. Marvel Studios just happens to currently make more great movies. It probably has something to do with them hiring people who actually know and like superheroes. Snyder's doing his best to murder the DCEU in the crib, and they're hemorrhaging directors on other films. I doubt those things are unrelated.So you're a Marvel guy, then.
The Dark Knight trilogy is deeply and earnestly fascist, in some ways the polar opposite of, for instance, Starship Troopers.
Not to the exclusion of DC, no. Marvel Studios just happens to currently make more great movies. It probably has something to do with them hiring people who actually know and like superheroes. Snyder's doing his best to murder the DCEU in the crib, and they're hemorrhaging directors on other films. I doubt those things are unrelated.
On another note, I just started watching The Flash with my son, and that show's awesome. We're going to start Arrow, too.
I just heard that the other day and couldn't believe it.You mean, for example, the idea of casting a new Flash for the movies because the TV show is too optimistic?