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  1. bigjunk1

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    This is just getting amazing. ESPN Page 2 "writer" Jemelle Hill had this sweet quote in her latest column:

    "Rooting for the Celtics is like saying Hitler was a victim. It's like hoping Gorbachev would get to the blinking red button before Reagan."

    This was up for a few hours before editors yanked the quote while leaving the rest of the article.

    Here is the link to the Deadspin story:

    http://deadspin.com/5016575/celtics-fans-are-no-longer-hitler-sympathizers
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    Wow. Jamelle Hill has been very supportive of the Pats during the whole taping thing. She is one of my favorite writers on ESPN. One of the few I actually read now.
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    The blinking red button? Gorby was responsible for ending the Cold War. What terrible writing.
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    Celtics forum conversation - not football or Patriots related,Please move
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    For an ESPN writer, ignorance is bliss. It allows you to say any damn thing at all without know a damn thing about what the he!! you're talking about. Isn't it an editor's job to axe sh!t like this BEFORE it's printed?
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    Someone is about to get fired.
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    I will say it once and I will say it again. Page 2 writers are crap with the exception of Bill Simmons and I ain't nearly as high on him as others on this board. Page 2 usually attracts crazies and conspiracy theorists.

    BTW, I never judge the quality of a writer based on how he/she likes the teams that I root for. Even when Peter King was an unashamed Patriots rum-swap, I found his MMQB column very fluffy and not worth more than a skimming to find out a few nuggets or two within the massive amount of useless information. I hate the local media who are bigger homers than most of the extreme homer fans (Pete Sheppard and Fed Smerlas) as much as I hate the Patriots haters in the media. So just because Hill was supportive of the Patriots during Spygate doesn't mean she isn't a whack-job.
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    Weird, I always thought of the Celts as Omar al-Bashir, but I guess everyone's opinion is different.
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    Don't forget the late Dr. Gonzo!
    Oh wait, you didn't.
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    How do people here feel about the Colts or Yankees? How would anyone here feel rooting for them?

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    I like Jamelle as well. Personally, this article doesn't bother me at all. Yes, her choice of words is distasteful and a little far-fetched but I understand her point. I think the title of this thread takes what she is saying out of context. IMO the article is focused on Detroit fans rooting for the Celtics to win as the issue...not "all fans that root for the C's are rooting for Hitler". I can't say I'd think any differently of New England/Boston fans who would root in any circumstance for the Jets and Yankees...I would just choose better wording and comparisons.
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    are you kidding or what? what espn do you watch. she a first class asshol-. she has never been supportive of the pats never. she cant get by her own anti boston bias. there is no excuse for what she wrote none. she should be fired.
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    She's never bothered me. I always thought she was better then most of the jerkoffs employed at espn.
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    #24 Jersey

    Again, I'm a Heat fan so this doesn't bother me as much as you guys, but she's still a fat gorilla (and I don't mean that in a racist sense).
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    espn should just go get a guy off the st to write for them because he might have more neutral objectivity then she does. shes just like your run of the mill sports fan. she doesnt know sh1t.
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    Jamelle was a relative voice of reason during spygate given where she's employed. That said, considering it's been decades since the Celtics were a legit contender the whole premise of her piece is a stretch. Then her choice of wording or comparison - she's a professional writer for cripes sakes and words are her living - is reprehensible.
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    I'm so flippin' sick and tired of reading or hearing about what's being allowed to spew from the media's mouths, and continuously watching all of it go unpunished or unaddressed by people in journalism who actually matter. Even though they pulled the statement, wtf kind of thought process do these writers have, and wtf kind of sense of entitlement do these editors have that makes them think they can say whatever the fk they want to, and get away with it? Tomass-e comes to mind, among so many others:mad::woohoo:
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    i could not agree more. wtf was going thru her brain when she wrote that crap? did she ever stop and think her writing and choice of words was over the top?
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    Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending her poor judgement and writing skills. The entire article was pointless. All I'm saying is that I understand her overall point and that the title on this thread was a bit misleading to me. Based on the thread title, I expected to read about how rooting for the Celtics made me a Hitler supporter. That wasn't the case. To me, her point was that she was peeved by so-called fans on her side rooting for a rival...albeit old-school rival. I understand how that could be perceived as obnoxious if you have that much hatred for a rival team...which apparently she does (rightfully so or not). Do I agree with you that she's crazy to be so worked up over a rivalry over 20 years old? Sure, especially considering how good the Pistons have been and how crappy the Celt's have played for many years. But I do understand her general point.

    However, you are right that she is a professional writer and should absolutely be held to a higher standard. But this is ESPN we're talking about. All I expect is irrelevant and biased tabloid trash. I get it every time, so I'm no longer surprised by it. Considering some of the stuff I've read this season, I found this pretty tame.:)
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    Race/religion other controversial issues which have nothing to do with the game have become normal for writers these days...because they have nothing to write about the game. Take scoop jackson for e.g last week about ray allen

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playo...ist=jackson_scoop&page=RayAllenfeature-080610

    was it really necessary and made the article or news any better ? no but there you go.
    fact that ESPN pulls hill's lines in the arcticle without apology means nothing will be done.
    she will just write again saying she was 'just joking' and has a lot of respect for the celtics blah blah..
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    i dont care about anyone at espn, they all mean nothing to me.
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    #18 Jersey

    I've never liked her very much. This doesn't change things either way.

    (That's it, nothing dramatic from me.)
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    Its almost as if the writers just post whatever they want to the website and the editor reads peoples comments in order to decide what to change.
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    #24 Jersey

    There is only one solution for this: editors should have a gun put to their head while they check the story out. If they miss anything, their brains become their office's newest decor.
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    if they have any that is...
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    Hey, if you live in Boston you're probably familair with the Toucher and Rich Show on WBCN (Patriots ROCK! radio network). They've gotten really into this because Jemele Hill made a name for herself by saying that Don Imus needed to be fired, and that no apology would ever be enough.

    Go here: http://www.wbcn.com/pages/2428584

    for her info. They gave out her office phone number a little while ago but quickly realized what a bid idea that was. They also sent Adolfo, who's kinda like their mascot, and some other staffers to Bristol to hold up signs and protest ESPN's headquarters.

    While I don't think her article was the worst thing in the world, I am kind of offended by it. Just as context had a lot to do with why Imus's comments were so bad, I think when you place her comments in the context of Boston being perceived as a racist city makes them worse, which I suspect is what she was getting at.

    What's most offensive is how much of a hypocrite she's turned herself into. No apology would satisfy her. Pffft. What Imus said was off the top of his head. She had hours and hours of writing, rewrites, and editing before that hit the net, and she didn't realize that might be offensive? It's not even really historically accurate. While there was tension in the 80's, no one ever perceived Gorbachev to be some kind of iron-fisted villain.
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    She's usually pretty cool and well spoken on 1st and 10 and has stuck up for the Pats quite a few times.

    Disappointing.
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    you must be watching a different espn. shes anything but well spoken. shes clueless hypocrite with no profesinalisme . shes by far one of the worst people on that suck ass station.
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    you really think they know what they are writing ? their audience is the people ignorant like her and they just generally assume whatever they throw out there will stick.Read scoop jackson's article on allen. he keeps saying the boston fans were on him when he was not playing well in the playoffs. which is so opposite the truth-they were always supportive of him throughout.

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