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  1. Patriots Nation NY

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    I live in Ny, and can't tell you how many times I've seen on the news tonight Amani Toomer crying about the 14 point spread.. "We were 14 point underdogs getting off the plane last night." So that's the card they are playing.. Stop your whining.. :singing:
     
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    I remember when he played @ De La Salle High School back in 1991.

    Our High School team went up against De La Salle back in 1991 for the 3A Championship Game. We were Huge underdogs in that game. But we pulled off the Victory and De La Salle did not lose another game until 2004.:D
     
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    Down to 12 pt dogs now, it has nothing to do with Brady's ankle/foot. Public have been burned on NE lately, they've not covered the spread hardly at all other than against Pittsburgh the past several weeks. Plus, Giants are in a huge market and they've been covering a lot lately, I was expecting the line to go down near 11 before game time.

    NE may get a lot of the sharp action in the game, if the spread keeps falling, while a lot of the public who is gunshy on the Pats against the spread may back NYG.
     
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    14 points seems awfully high
     
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    I agree...8/9 is more like where it should be. but it's all set by where the money is being bet, so we can't argue with the line.

    Toomer should know why Vegas set the line where they did. It's not like the experts or ESPN is responsible here. All he has to do is convince more people to put their money on the Giants and the line will come down.
     
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    Vegas has set the spreads high the last few games in order to recoup some of their money that was spent on the Pats earlier in the season.
     
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    If you think the bookies lose money on any games, I have a bridge that you might like to buy.

    As other posters have correctly indicated, the odds are set in order to get the same amount of money bet on the two teams. And when the book is 'balanced' like that - it DOES NOT matter who wins with respect to the spread. The bookies make money either way. If the books are not balancing before a game, you see the odds shifted - which is just their way to get the bets to even out. The fact that you rarely see the odds shift very much before the game is an indication of just how uncanny the bookies are in judging the 'balancing' odds to begin with.

    What the bookies are EXPERT at is figuring out a spread that will get the same number of people to bet on either team. Their odds and spreads have NOTHING to do with predicting who will actually win the game.
     
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    Exactly Right
     
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    Was he just stating a fact or were there actually tears raining down his face?
     
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    It's not a Toomer! (sorry I couldn't resist). :D
     
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    He was stating a fact in an attempt to play the "no respect" card.

    The 14 point line does not surprise me at all.
     
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    Super Bowls have a way of becoming blowouts. The long game, the long week, it wears you down. It's not often the best game.

    That being said, I expect this Super Bowl will be a better game than most anything we've seen these playoffs.
     
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    This was discussed ad nauseam earlier in the season, when the Pats were beating every spread. In fact, the bookmakers DID lose a ton of money on some of those games...they kept pushing the spread higher and higher but no money would come in on the other side. The market isn't perfectly fluid and efficient for every single game. I'm sure the losses evened out over the course of the season, though.
     
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    PAts have played in 3 close SB......I get the feeling this one is a massacre, especially since we've recently taken the best shots from "They Might be Giants" and still hung a 38 spot on them w/o 2 starting OL and Blocking TE, and two speacial teamers which led to return TD by Hixon.

    I cannot see Eli having the same success against our D as he did in wk 17, especially now the D knows his tendencies and seen him recenytly. Additionally for BB and Pees having 2 wks to prepare, and the media circus that Giants are not used to seeing (except Strahan), the weak Giants secondary vs our offensive wapons, this has all the makings of a complete bowout.

    I can easily see a 40-44 points being dropped on them, and Giants maybe getting 14-20. The coaching staff realizes a that by full throttle when we have the ball and scoring quickly will force Giants O to pass more as opposed to run, playing right into Pats hands by increasing possessions, and Eli to wilt under pressure. Yes he's had a good 4 weeks, but SB is a complete different animal when he realizes the media circus and him becoming THE Focus

    So, the key will be a fast start and relentless O pressure. I cannot see Eli being able to keep up if we double Plastico and force him to throw to "Mr Count me in for 3-4 drops a game" Toomer, or Boss or dump to RB's.
     
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