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Manning top ranked QB in playoffs accordng to ESPN "experts"

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    Why does this anger you so much? They do this all the time. And like clockwork, Manning exits the playoffs. Look, his numbers are great and that's what they are looking at. Plus, he gets to throw to one of the best receivers in the game.
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    Manning sells. He is a marketing dream. Unfortunately for indy, come January he can't win.
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    I thought that the article was very well written. There even is some repect for our OL, ranked 4th.
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    It angers me....top QB in the playoffs? Tom Brady is 10-1
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    Who cares at this point? Statistically, Manning was better than Brady the last few years with his superior and stable receiving corps, but Brady will always have the intangibles (not to mention the rings) over Manning, and they enter the playoffs with the same record, with the Pats (and Brady) having more momentum. On Sunday at 4:00 p.m. hopefully we can gloat that Brady is clearly the better QB again, no matter what the stat charts say.
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    Try "two."
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    too bad he can't play middle linebacker
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    What the Brady have to do to get the respect he deserves????? I would love to see Mannings numbers throwing to Caldwell, Brown, Gaffney and Gabriel. Brady has only played with one probowler on offense in his ENTIRE career (Brown in 01)!!!!!

    Yeah Manning has great stats, yada yada yada. That is because, the Colts put the bulk of the salary cap into that offense. Most QB's playing with that group, not to mention having 8 games in a dome would do just fine - can you imagine Brady's numbers throwing to that group with that protection not to mention the perfect conditions 8 times a year! If Manning was a great as everyone says he is, couldn't the Colts trust him to do more with less on offense and take some of that coin and put it into their defense like NE does? I would love to see it!

    Apparently they don't think Manning can do it without the supporting cast. Manning has only himself to blame in campaigning hard to keep his guys; Harrison, Wayne, Saturday to get top dollar - not to mention himself! All along leaving a huge hole in the defense. He can point fingers all he wants at his defense but he should be pointing right at himself!

    Brady on the other hand could have held the Pats over a barrel to be the highest paid QB (after 3 SB's who would have blamed him). He also could have held them over a barrel with Branch. He certainly wasn't happy about Branch, but the Pats trust Brady's leadership and talent enough to know he can still be great with a less than stellar cast. The Pats are damned lucky to have this kid and as I have said on many occasion, I hope Pat fans realize how lucky they are to watch this kid every week. Tom Brady's don't come around too often!

    He has won 3 Superbowls for &$#sake! It amazes me he just doesn't seem to get the respect he deserves. I guess in a way it is a good thing because he will always be a 6th round draft pick and driven to prove everyone wrong!
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    When the internet has lost track of their old stories they will all write how hard it was to find new superlatives in describing Brady.
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    The funny thing is that the old story on Manning (i.e. he got happy feet, panicked and choked in the playoffs) is now being replaced by a new story. Peyton would win super Bowls but he is saddled with a horrible defense.

    They're making him out to be Dan marino, and he's not. marino was saddled with horrible defenses, and Marino never panicked. He chewed his teammates out, but he was clutch, unlike Peyton.
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    I keep wondering what it's going to finally take for the media to get off the Manning bandwagon. I'm sick of listening that and the mantra "this should be the Colts year". Jezuz we've been hearing that BS for 5 years now (ok-maybe I exaggerated-but at least 3 years). How long is this going to go on:eek:
    FWIW,Mike and Mike rated the 8 QB's,coaches,and all RB's going into this weekend. Both of them agreed without argument or hesitation that Brady was the #1 QB going in,with BB as the #1 coach.No doubts or arguments there.
    Both easily put Manning into the #2 slot, with Dungy falling somewhere around #4 or 5. Definite lasts were Eli and Coughlin.
    Corey-Lo combo was 3rd (or 4th) among RB's.
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    Just more crap from ESPN, take the d rankings, they have SD ranked higher in every category, DL, LB and DB's, only thing they missed is that we allowed fewer pts than SD, usual lousy analysis by the hype masters from ESPN, I was wondering if Irwin is one of their Scouts.
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    What is all this hatred for Peyton? You guys have 3 Super Bowl rings, and he has none. Except for this year, you guys have owned him, and he won't win one this year.

    Give the man his props-unlike his brother Eli, the guy has passion, he's studious, and very serious about the game.
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    Who else is there for top-ranked QB? Manning played a superb game against the Pat's - the accuracy of his throws under pressure was amazing. Brady certainly wouldn't be considered - he's making wild throws even when he has plenty of time to throw.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_(sports)
    Since then, NFL teams popularly labeled chokers (or often, "choke artists") have included the Minnesota Vikings more or less throughout the 1970s, the San Diego Chargers in the late 1970s and early 1980s, the Buffalo Bills in the 1990s and, most recently, the Philadelphia Eagles and the Indianapolis Colts in the early 2000s. In all five instances the respective quarterbacks for these teams — Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly, Donovan McNabb and Peyton Manning — have also been stereotyped personally along with the entire teams themselves, McNabb adding to his reputation for choking with three interceptions in the Eagles' 24-21 loss to the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XXXIX after having been intercepted only eight times during the entire 2004 regular season. Manning's reputation for choking was added to due to the Colts loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Colts' first game of the playoffs in 2006, along with his record against the New England Patriots (1-7, 0-2 in postseason) in the playoffs and his 0-3 record against Florida in college.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clutch_(sports)
    NFL players like Joe Montana and Tom Brady (whose idol is Montana), neither blessed with the athleticism and arm strength of "prototype" quarterbacks like Dan Marino, came up big when their respective teams, the San Francisco 49ers and New England Patriots, needed them in the Super Bowl or in any other big game. Neither Brady or Montana have put up the stats Marino (who lost his only Super Bowl appearance) did in his career, but they have 7 Super Bowl wins among them (Montana 4, Brady 3).
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    get over yourself its football go watch your dvd tapes from 2 and 3 and 5 years ago...maybe watching them replays of your secondary holding and adam v kicking fgs and walt coleman overturning his own call in the snow job 2 will make you feel better

    why do you care so much about manning, you are a pats fan...right??
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    i wonder how good wayne would be if he was drafted by the pats and no the colts....i bet he would be a 4th wr or 3rd and in the same class as say....drew bennett peyton makes them good with his smarts and his accuracy get over it
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    brady had the cheating defense and got his rings even with his sucky #s in the SB in 36 and only decent in 39 and alll you guys can do is be like...man if we had them colts wr's.....get over it losers your team likes to not pay any1 and likes to let go all talent so what

    end of careers

    Peyton to Marvin Best combo all time!

    Brady to.....4th down and a Adam V kick! best combo all time LOL
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    wow a toss - up throw at the end of the game....and the only one the Pats got LOL how many drops did the colts give him that day i forget? around 10 i think...a lot of 3rd downs. even the chiefs got more than 1 pick in garbage time against peyton = chiefs D > pats D hahahahahahahahaha
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    Normally I wouldn't feed the trolls, but you really have been talking a lot of rubbish around here this morning.

    There were 4 interceptions of Manning that day, 3 by Ty Law and one by Rodney Harrison.

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/gamebook/NFL_20040118_IND@NE
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