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    From Peter King's column today about one of the consequences about an uncapped year in 2010. I thought this was interesting, especially since this is a Pats forum and the Pats usually have one of the league's better records.

    Other notes:
    1) Free agency doesn't kick in until a player's 6th season in the league.
    2) Use of two transition tags in a given season.
     
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    If this were going to happen it would ruin teams every year. Thats one of the stupidest rules ive ever heard of brought up.
     
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    if u have an uncapped year....u cant limit only select teams....what kind of crap is taht?

    then there really wont have any more dynasties
     
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    My guess is they put that in there as an 'incentive' for the owners, so they have a serious, vested, interest in getting a new deal done, and avoiding uncapped years (and strikes, and the other BS that could come with it).
     
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    If this is the case, it would be in the Patriots interest to PURPOSELY TANK the previous season.

    I'm serious.

    If I were owner, I'd say: TANK IT, and then let's sign all the all stars on the market!!! And then let's win the next 3 or 4 Super Bowls instead of vying to possibly win just one.

    Who thinks up this stuff?
     
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    I wonder how this works for a teams OWN free agents.......would we have been able to sign Moss, Asante, Gay, etc??
     
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    Great, the NFL is adopting communism. :bricks:
     
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    The Patriots would benefit in the uncapped year from the

    increase in required service time from four years to six years

    to be a UFA. They have a very large number of players who

    become UFAs in 2010 including Mankins, Kaczur, and Hobbs.

    The Patriots could also tag three players like Light, Watson,

    and Seymour who have 6 years of service and whose contracts

    expire after 2009 with franchise and transition tags.
     
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    I loved the Eli quote about winning it next year. Something like "Hey, it felt good, let's do it again."

    Yep, it's that easy folks!

    Heavy lies the crown muthafugga!
     
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    Which part are you referring to?
     
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    Ominously, in big letters on NFLPlayers.com right now is this quote from Gene Upshaw: "Once the cap is gone, it’s gone forever."
     
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    It's actually better in some ways, and worse in some ways, than it looks.

    First off, the rules do NOT apply equally to all eight teams. The final four are the worst off.

    This answer's fgssand's question--it would have no effect on resigning your own FAs.

    The next four get one additional vehicle for signing UFAs:
    Here is the "Section 4", to which King refers:
    But here's the real kick in the groin:
    The way I understand this is that if a team resigns all its FAs, and doesn't lose any, it can't trade for UFAs, period, but it can go after RFAs. And, of course, the waiver wire always remains open.

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    The interesting question is what happens in future years; it's not at all clear to me that this would(n't) apply in years after the first uncapped one.

    But remember that there's poison pills on both sides--the NFLPA accepted a salary cap in exchange for earlier FA. If the cap goes away, there are going to be some unhappy fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-year players. :) / :(
     
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    So, tank a few games in 2009?:D
     
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    I think they use the last four playoff teams in each league as the final 8, or 8 best as opposed to 8 best regular season records. It's the only part of this they thought through.
     
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    Woah, this is a great idea! Sounds like an awesome time for all involved, hell yeah!

    Now I can say I was the only person in America to respond positively to this idea, regardless if I actually meant it.
     
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    Gene Upshaw is so short-term.

    The NFL would eventually lose megabucks if only the best financed teams were competitive every year.

    TV revenues would plummet.
     
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    I don't believe that anyone has ever claimed that Gene Upshaw was intelligent.
     
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    Peter King is wrong. A team can use a transition tag or the franchise tag in an capped year. In 2010 a team can use a franchise and a transition tag or two transition tags.

    Footnotes:
    http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2008/02/Free_Agency_Primer.aspx

    From the CBA:

     
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    http://www.nflplayers.com/user/template.aspx?fmid=181&lmid=237&pid=539&type=c#a13

    which would mean Braylon Edwards and Logan Mankins would be UFAs in 2010.
     
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    The rules for uncapped seasons in the NFL are pretty damn strange. I remember a lot of this coming up before the CBA was extended in 2006.
     
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