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Julius Peppers -- Shoulda, Woulda & Coulda ????

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    If the pats signed Julius Peppers back in 2010 would we won 1 SUperbowl.

    My assumption is he would have made defense better.

    1. More QB pressure takes pressure off Secondary
    2. We would get off field on 3rd downs

    We know have the financially savvy version of Peppers in C. Jones

    Clearly Peppers was a lot of money to bite on and pre strike but given how many people we ran through here. Clearly Pats would not want to tip the lockerroom salary issue.

    But money aside I say we would have won one with him.

    I just hope C. Jones can do teh same some day!!!

    My problem is my in laws are giants fans
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    re: Julius Peppers -- Shoulda, Woulda & Coulda ????

    Signing Peppers = no money for Vince, Brady & Welker.

    Who would you rather have? Peppers, who doesn't look as good as he has in the past or those 3 players?
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    re: Julius Peppers -- Shoulda, Woulda & Coulda ????

    Peppers wanted huge money - again bye bye Vince, etc aas previous poster has stated....
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    re: Julius Peppers -- Shoulda, Woulda & Coulda ????

    We could have also hamstringed the salary cap. But yeah, that's the ticket. :rocker:
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    re: Julius Peppers -- Shoulda, Woulda & Coulda ????

    And talent aside, Tully Banta-Cain was just fine
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    I have two words - CHANDLER JONES!
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    Patriots offered him a lot of money. At some point you have to just draw the line and realize you are no longer making a good decision. Peppers has been good as a Bear, maybe even worth the money, but look at guys like Albert Haynesworth and (soon to be) Mario Williams. Pats have built through the draft, which is the only way to get an edge in the salary cap era.
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    OK I will bite and I will say yes we would have won one if not more.

    But I think you can say the same about a lot of free agents over the years. Or if we had just drafted Matthews.

    But I think you need to flip the script to had we spent that money what would have been the trickledown? Does that mean no long term for Vince? Maybe we dont let Vince go but tagged him 2 years in a row and instead let Wes walk? Maybe we still re-up Vince and tag Wes but would Gronk and Nandez maybe want more in their deals after seeing what we gave a top player at their position? Or even a little less complex than all that maybe we dont draft Jones because we have Pepp and instead we have a player on the second half instead of one with his all career ahead of him.

    Bottom line is we didnt sign him and we still got to the superbowl (mere seconds away from victory) and everything that could have been diferent in the above alternate universe has happened and it looks like we will be competing for 3-5 more years at least.
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    The offense was the thing that stunk in the Super Bowl, not the defense.
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    Sorry, but this is just false.

    As others have mentioned, with Peppers, we'd be without Wilfork, at the very least. Who'd you have anchoring the D-Line??? Peppers? That's a joke..

    Who'd be the QB? Mallett?? Hoyer??

    Sorry, but the Pats wouldn't have won one with Peppers because it wasn't the defense that cost the Pats the SB. Or did you miss the offense not being able to run out the clock when we needed it the most?
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    Not accurate. The defensive efficiency in the Super Bowl was astronomically awful, whereas the offensive efficiency wasn't that far off norm. Lack of possessions decided our fate.

    As regards to Pepper - I haven't even thought about the guy since he went to Chicago. We have plenty of players on the roster who we have extended who am I happy to have here longterm. Who knows if we could've retained them if we broke the bank for Peppers.

    Besides, Chandler Jones looks like the all-around beast that we want at that position anyway.
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    :rofl:

    Defense was, pretty clearly, one of the big factors in the Patriots losing XLVI. That said, though, Peppers wouldn't have helped for the reasons previously listed here.
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    Didnt Back to the Future teach you anything.

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    Alternate 1985 was no good what would make you think alternate Julius Peppers destination would be any good?

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    I think it's pretty close between keeping Wilfork and signing Peppers. I'd have to give it a thought about who I'd rather have. And you're kidding yourself if you think the Patriots would have left Brady walk under any circumstance.
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    Just like signing Mario has totally guaranteed a SB for Buffalo!
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    stupid thread is stupid
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    Wlfork over Peppers hands down, with Vince you get one of the best team leaders in league plus ability, character and work ethic.

    No tnx
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    Agreed, Peppers definitely would have helped but, the defense held the giants to 17 and 19. A top offense like the pats should of won both. Yeah the defense gave up game winning drives but they still played a solid game.
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    Wilfork, no question. He's a guy you can count on to go out there and play hard every down. Peppers isn't always there mentally. Much easier to give a guy like Wilfork big $.
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    I would tell your inlaws that, while the Giants are a good team, they are without doubt THE luckiest team probably in league history.

    In our first SB meeting, obviously the helmut catch, the missed holding on that play, Assante's dropped pick, you can pick from a half dozen ridiculously lucky plays in the last few minutes that ALL had to go the Giants way for them to win. Oh, and Brady's injured ankle from the SD game, which I think had a huge impact on the SB.

    Then in the 2nd SB matchup: first, they didn't even belong there, SF did. Then they lose decisively if Gronk is anywhere near 100%. Then Brady gets hurt midway thru the game. Then the very fortunate completion to Manningham (which I admit was more skill than luck, but a lot of luck too). Then the Welker drop while completely uncovered, the very close Hail Mary at the end, and I know I'm forgetting another 3 or 4 other plays late in that game too.

    They are way beyond "making your own luck", which is why they'll never make it again, the odds are too great.
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