I'm hearing rumors on Indy message boards- Peyton to IR

[PatsFanSince74]

I'm going to barf if they get #1 overall.

Don't...even...think...of...going...there.

 

[blackglass3]

This sucks for Peyton and for Colts fans. I hope he gets healthy and can play again...Pats vs Colts without Peyton just wouldn't be the same.

 

[goheels22002]

Can the Colts release him outright and get out from under that huge contract? If he goes to the IR and misses the season then they're on the hook for the whole thing unless he retires. Am I right about this?

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Can the Colts release him outright and get out from under that huge contract? If he goes to the IR and misses the season then they're on the hook for the whole thing unless he retires. Am I right about this?

Wrong. They are on the hook for $48.5M either way unless he retires and pays back his signing bonus... Releasing him outright does nothing for them but screw their cap and the next couple of seasons...

The docs have temporarily shut him down. Will be listed as doubtful this week pending any further developments.

http://www.colts.com/news-and-events...d-195b59128969

In response to a number of media inquiries, the Colts issue the following update on Peyton Manning’s status.

During the last week, the rate of improvement in Peyton’s rehabilitation process slowed. Over the weekend Peyton experienced soreness in his back. It was originally thought to be a normal reaction to his rehabilitation regimen. When the soreness persisted, the Colts medical team decided to initiate diagnostic tests and to consult with a number of specialists around the country who have been involved in Peyton’s case from the outset. That process continues. As a result of the most recent development the doctors have decided that Peyton will not practice. His participation therefore, in Sunday’s game versus Houston will likely be doubtful. We will update his playing status as required by NFL policy as the week goes on.
At the conclusion of the diagnostic process, if there are any new developments in the prognosis which we outlined for Peyton at the start of training camp we will report them. As of now Peyton continues to deal with a complicated neurological recovery, the end date of which is unpredictable.
As was stated at the outset, it serves no useful purpose to speculate about hypothetical outcomes. When and if there are concrete medical facts to report we will do so.
We appreciate your consideration in this matter.

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Good luck with that consideration part...

 

[Bella*chick]

I just think if I was a colts fan I would feel awful if he didn't play but scared to death if he does play. Which doesn't seem like a great choice.

I guess it's true they wanted to take him off PUP because things looked fine at the time but they were still only guessing that he would be ready for week 1 because it's apparent he wasn't completely healed. I know this is football and guys play injured all the time but this is neck and nerve related, which to me makes it scarier and a much more delicate situation. I also think they didn't want to look foolish re: the huge contract.

 

[JoeShmoe]

http://www.colts.com/news-and-events...d-195b59128969

That doesnt sound poistive does it. Guy his age with neuro recovery problems, its something you dont risk

 

[The Scrizz]

Wrong. They are on the hook for $48.5M either way unless he retires and pays back his signing bonus... Releasing him outright does nothing for them but screw their cap and the next couple of seasons...

The docs have temporarily shut him down. Will be listed as doubtful this week pending any further developments.

http://www.colts.com/news-and-events...d-195b59128969

In response to a number of media inquiries, the Colts issue the following update on Peyton Manning’s status.

During the last week, the rate of improvement in Peyton’s rehabilitation process slowed. Over the weekend Peyton experienced soreness in his back. It was originally thought to be a normal reaction to his rehabilitation regimen. When the soreness persisted, the Colts medical team decided to initiate diagnostic tests and to consult with a number of specialists around the country who have been involved in Peyton’s case from the outset. That process continues. As a result of the most recent development the doctors have decided that Peyton will not practice. His participation therefore, in Sunday’s game versus Houston will likely be doubtful. We will update his playing status as required by NFL policy as the week goes on.
At the conclusion of the diagnostic process, if there are any new developments in the prognosis which we outlined for Peyton at the start of training camp we will report them. As of now Peyton continues to deal with a complicated neurological recovery, the end date of which is unpredictable.
As was stated at the outset, it serves no useful purpose to speculate about hypothetical outcomes. When and if there are concrete medical facts to report we will do so.
We appreciate your consideration in this matter.
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Good luck with that consideration part...

BB's same release if it were Brady: He has an upper body injury, so he's questionable. I'm not a doctor here guys, he'll play when the doctors say he's ready.

 

[Uncle Rico]

The competition for that honor will be fiercer than the division...and with $48M guaranteed and $69M in the first three...that would not be a silver lining.

I was just thinking along these lines: With PM's contract, having to pay a high draft pick would be a bit of a killer for them, wouldn't it?

 

[Bella*chick]

Guess that update doesn't sound good. Well, I hope that he takes the time he needs to recover because I may loathe the Colts but I certainly don't want anything horrible to happen to Peyton.

 

[The Scrizz]

I just think if I was a colts fan I would feel awful if he didn't play but scared to death if he does play. Which doesn't seem like a great choice.

I guess it's true they wanted to take him off PUP because things looked fine at the time but they were still only guessing that he would be ready for week 1 because it's apparent he wasn't completely healed. I know this is football and guys play injured all the time but this is neck and nerve related, which to me makes it scarier and a much more delicate situation. I also think they didn't want to look foolish re: the huge contract.

Exactly how I felt when Bruschi came back. I really didn't want him to play even though he had been cleared it made me that nervous.

 

[Bella*chick]

Exactly how I felt when Bruschi came back. I really didn't want him to play even though he had been cleared it made me that nervous.

That's an apt comparison. I was nervous too but looking back (and after reading his book) he was really completely ready to go. Physically just fine. And in this case, we know Manning is not. But it's still a good comparison especially from a fan POV.

 

[Patspsycho]

Schefter just tweeted that Peyton has stopped practicing because his back has been bothering him.

IR is looking more and more likely for Peyton.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

On some level he has to be freaking out at a time when he should be on top of the world, basking in the glow of his potential GOAT career with that all important Lombardi safely in hand and a $90M to retirement deal signed and sealed and infant twins at home. Only to find out that all the money and influence in the world can't always fix what befalls you...when what you want most is to get back to doing what you love and go out on your own terms and timetable even if that day is becoming realistically more forseeable.

I know they ruled out the specific congenital nerve disease that supposedly ended Cooper's even more promising career as a receiver - both Peyton and Eli were tested at the time and again at the combine - but you got to wonder...

 

[Bella*chick]

Congenital nerve disease...how is Cooper doing now? Anyone know?

 

[patchick]

Schefter just tweeted that Peyton has stopped practicing because his back has been bothering him.

IR is looking more and more likely for Peyton.

IMO they will IR him only if the team physicians rule out any possibility of him playing in January. That's a player you carry a dead roster spot for, even if there's only a small chance he'll return.

 

[Patspsycho]

IMO they will IR him only if the team physicians rule out any possibility of him playing in January. That's a player you carry a dead roster spot for, even if there's only a small chance he'll return.

I have no doubt you are right.

In a logical world, putting Peyton on IR takes the pressure off of him to try to come back too early in the sense that it would be prudent to lose one year to ensure the remaining few years Peyton has left aren't endangered.

The reports coming out just are flat out bleak- "needs 2nd neck procedure," "nerve regeneration has a life of its own," along with separate back issues (which were determined to be unrelated).

I have always enjoyed our games against him and the Colts. They have never been anything less than highly competitive and enjoyable. I can only wish him well and hope things work out for him, health-wise.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Congenital nerve disease...how is Cooper doing now? Anyone know?

I was going to reply he's fine just can't play football, but then I went and checked the link in King's piece this AM...

There are ballads, and then there's Cooper's ballad. It would be a heartbreaker if he weren't one of the funniest guys alive. Cooper's ballad tells the story of a gifted 18-year-old receiver who seems destined for the big time until doctors inform him that he suffers from a congenital narrowing of the spinal canal—spinal stenosis, they call it—and his football career abruptly ends only months into his freshman year at Ole Miss, in 1992. He endures three major operations, one of them a harrowing spinal surgery that leaves an eight-inch-long scar along the back of his neck. His chest and shoulders lose their once muscular form. His right hand becomes atrophied and disfigured and has a constant tremor, and he can't control the fingers well enough to throw a football or type except by the old hunt-and-peck method. His left leg is numb; his right leg is sometimes so sapped of strength that he drags it.

Thing is, spinal stenosis isn't just a congenital defect. I would know as I suffer some of the effects of it. Mine effects my lower back and legs and while I have had a bad back off and on for years (think I initially hurt a disc shoveling in my 20's) the stenosis didn't begin to manifest itself until a few years ago - likely as the result of the injured disc (which flared up periodically over 20 plus years) eventually fusing. My mom was diagnosed to have stenosis of the neck in her 80's which contributed to an unsteady gait (which led to broken hips and the like...). Sometimes they can go in and ream the narrowed area out, but it's spinal surgery so there are no guarantees and in her case they felt it was diagnosed to late for her to see a worthwhile risk/reward result. Sounds like Cooper's surgeries didn't exactly work wonders although perhaps the congenital version would have resulted in a worse outcome left untreated...

 

[Banjo]

This sucks for Peyton and for Colts fans. I hope he gets healthy and can play again...Pats vs Colts without Peyton just wouldn't be the same.

Hell yeah. That's always one of my favorite games of the season. Tom Brady vs. Kerry Collins would not be quite as exciting

 

[Bella*chick]

Wow, Mo, that's just awful. My husband had that in his neck and had surgery on it. He never had any symptoms though, and still doesn't. They did the surgery about 6 years ago to be absolutely sure it wouldn't get worse. I don't think it was congenital, though.

 

[Simkin]

Great, its cover on ESPN. Good job Peyton, good job.

Hope everyone is okay and recover and its well