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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.That is why it isn't discussion worthy, because it just isn't correct to say that bookmakers guess who will win and effectively place bets by forcing the money the other way. Just doesn't happen, and any degree of logic will tell you that when they can guarantee a 10% with no risk, they aren't going to plss that away by gambling.
Vegas TAKES bets, they don't MAKE bets.
They have employees who set the lines so that they aren't out of whack to begin with. Spending millions for inside information is a fiment of your imagination.Oh really? Then why do Sportsbooks spend millions of dollars on professional handicappers and pay tons of money for inside information that the public doesn't know about anyway? If the public is unaware of this inside info, then Vegas shouldn't really care about it either, right?
Again, the fact that they strive to do it correctly is not proof that they are silly enough to take a sure thing and turn it into a gamble.And why bother with computer simulations and spending money on extremely advanced technology and algorithms to come up with a spread? Why not just pay someone 40k a year who researches historical trends, polls bettors, and can figure out exactly where to set the spread for equal betting? Because there is rarely equal betting, so why not just do that?
No. That is gambling. They are in the business of collecting as close to all of the 10% vig on the bets that they can.The reason they don't do this is because sharp bettors would kill them with $5M bets and take all their money. Vegas foremost protects themselves by setting the correct line so it's a 50/50 proposition on who will actually cover... the adjustments are made to hedge bets and risks.
This makes absolutely no sense. There is no probability equation in a sporting event. Once again, they don't try to predict a winner, that would be effetively making the house a gambler. They strive to get equal money on both sides.You act like they would give a team 5-6 points because they think that's where the betting will come in. That's crazy! As I said before, maybe 1-2 points. If the spread was giving a team a touchdown that was not calculated into the real probability equation, the books would go bankrupt.
Common sense defeats your argument.Vegas likes to be somewhat balanced by sometimes adjusting the lines a few points to compensate for unbalanced bets, but in general, they begin with the number that accurately represents the most likely outcome of the game. You obviously don't know how it works.
BingoVegas is begging people to bet on the Ravens. It's usually better to run the other way when that's the case. Because they think there's a chance NE blows them out.
I don't understand why everyone is saying the Ravens got lucky to beat the Broncos (who apparently didn't show up.) TWO special teams touchdowns in one game for the Broncos. Even if Denver completely stunk up the field for the rest of the game, that's a lot to overcome. I understand we all love our Patriots, but let's give credit where it's due. Even had the Ravens lost last week by not completing the miracle pass, it was still a tremendous effort in a really tough stadium. Perhaps you don't recall, but everyone said the Ravens age would be a factor playing in the altitude... well, the Broncos scored just 21 points on offense in 77 minutes and couldn't move the ball in the game's final 20+ minutes.
Also, Indianapolis was a good opponent that won 11 games. I realize they're overrated, but let's not act like they were chopped liver.
Looks like it's working: down to 8.5.
you guys see the 60 min episode with the worlds biggest bookie? He can move a line .5 all by himself if he wanted to. lives in cali i think? Billionaire i want to say
I am familiar with who you are talking about, although for some reason I remembered him being more of a sportsbettor than a bookie, but I only saw the episode once and that was a few years ago.
One of the general reasons why he was able to move the line a bit by himself was due to the unpopular choices of some of his targets. For example, he would choose an NCAA basketball or NCAA football game with very limited interest (and there are plenty out there), where his cash alone would factor into the equation.
Even though stories like his are one in a million, I still have respect for him and his method, which was very smart.
The Patriots are 17-3 straight up when favored by 8 or more in their last 20 games.
Let's keep that line at 8 or more :rocker:
Oh really? Then why do Sportsbooks spend millions of dollars on professional handicappers and pay tons of money for inside information that the public doesn't know about anyway? If the public is unaware of this inside info, then Vegas shouldn't really care about it either, right?
And why bother with computer simulations and spending money on extremely advanced technology and algorithms to come up with a spread? Why not just pay someone 40k a year who researches historical trends, polls bettors, and can figure out exactly where to set the spread for equal betting? Because there is rarely equal betting, so why not just do that?
The reason they don't do this is because sharp bettors would kill them with $5M bets and take all their money. Vegas foremost protects themselves by setting the correct line so it's a 50/50 proposition on who will actually cover... the adjustments are made to hedge bets and risks.
You act like they would give a team 5-6 points because they think that's where the betting will come in. That's crazy! As I said before, maybe 1-2 points. If the spread was giving a team a touchdown that was not calculated into the real probability equation, the books would go bankrupt.
Vegas likes to be somewhat balanced by sometimes adjusting the lines a few points to compensate for unbalanced bets, but in general, they begin with the number that accurately represents the most likely outcome of the game. You obviously don't know how it works.
i say a 6-7 pt win
I'll take it, happily.