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Gosselin: Patriots Tops in Special Teams Rankings

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  1. DarrylS

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    Somewhat suprised that we are ranked #1 in this phase of the game, but Gosselin is respected more than most...

    Pats top special teams rankings - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

     
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    Re: Gosselin... Patriots Tops in Special Teams Rankings..

    But we lost a playoff game, so they have to be the worst special teams in the league, and we have to fire them all.
     
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    Re: Gosselin... Patriots Tops in Special Teams Rankings..

    As a comparison, here are the special team rankings of Football Outsiders; they rank the Patriots 8th.

    FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2010 SPECIAL TEAMS RATINGS


    I like that FO uses net yards when kicking off and punting, but would like to see them go one step further and do the same on returns. I would prefer to see in these rankings a consideration for teams kicking away from a returner.

    For example if Team A fields a kickoff at the goal line and the kick is returned to the 25, they are credited with a 25-yard return. But if Team B has a dangerous return man their opponent may have a squib kick which is picked up at the 25 and returned to the 35. Team B is credited with only a 10-yard return so on paper their special teams look much worse, when in fact because of their special team prowess their starting position is ten yards further upfield. To me net yards on a kickoff or punt return might be a better metric than return yardage only. I realize that number could be swayed by a very good (or poor) opposing kicker or punter, but over the course of a full season it should balance out.
     
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