Warren and Seymour were both injured last year, Seymour for most of the year.
Doesn't matter. The Pats don't get an extra active spot if Seymour is active and injured.
RayClay said:
Could have used that "insurance policy agains the Jets.
Show me the last time the Pats have activated more than 5 DL's in game.
RayClay said:
They used Seymour on both sides to see which he could play with only one arm, (and leg injuries too, judging from knee surgery) and other leg problems.
Again, he could have no arms and if he was still active, it wouldn't matter.
RayClay said:
Hills had 3 training camps, multiple opportunities when we needed him for an injured seymour or Warren. He's been so bad they've had to take him out immediately.
But never 2 or even 3 (Green) at the same time. Whenever Seymour has been hurt, Green has been there. Whenever Warren has been hurt, Green has been there.
Even so, Warren has only been inactive for 1 game in the past 4 years. That's 63 active, 1 inactive. That's not exactly "multiple opportunities." That one inactive game, against the Jets, I have already outlined above in the thread.
Seymour has actually been fairly healthy over his 6-year career, at least in terms of missed games (which is all that matters in this discussion).
Hill has been in those 3 camps, but he's also been in those 3 games with Seymour, Warren, and Green. He's been buried from the beginning. The Pats drafted him as an insurance policy, and fortunately Seymour and Warren have panned out and stayed healthy, so they haven't needed Hill. It was a gamble pick. If they took another DL in the 1st round this year, and he never got to play because of Seymour and Warren, would we be downgrading him too?
RayClay said:
Wright has made the team thanks to Hills ineptitude.
Wright made the team in 2005 thanks to Dan Klecko's ...and... Ifo Pili's ineptitude. If he were fighting Hill for the 4th and final DE spot, the two wouldn't have co-existed on a roster for two years now.
RayClay said:
We have two DE replacements, they both can play nose in a pinch and Green's a great pass rusher too.
What's Hill?
Wright is too tall for NT and too big to be an effective pass rusher. He would have had more flexibility in a 4-3, but it's not his fault the Pats drafted him.
Again, the Pats drafted Hill before Warren had proven himself, and when Seymour was still in the process of doing so. If Warren had taken a Jonathan Sullivan path, Hill may be a starter today. Who knows. What we do know is that, in hindsight, the Pats wouldn't have drafted Hill in 2004 if they had known how Seymour and Warren and Green have turned out.