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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Wow.

    Be prepared to duck.

    I could have written that myself, I agree with it so much. All the BB is great at drafting and player development. Really? Really? Are you sure? Doesn't look like it from here.

    Colts OL is 4th rounders and below!

    Their defense I knew is a bunch of low round guys. That's just amazing what it says about their organization.

    Please can we get one of their guys to be our OC?

    Maybe BB can learn something from their D?
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    How does a team who's won 3 Superbowls in 4 years "catch up" to a team who's going to their second in four seasons.

    He's really not worth the click. imho of course.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Sorry, that doesn't work any more. Since we last won the SB the Steelers have won 2 and the Colts are positioned to possibly win their 2nd. We're behind. Get real, and get used to it.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    That is bull, IMO.

    They wasted a 1st round pick on a 2nd string RB in one of the worst ground games in the NFL.

    When you have Clark and Wayne, along with Peyton Manning throwing you the ball, Garcon and Collie will make plays.

    The Pats drafted a good WR in Julian Edelman, who I think is better and has way more potential then Collie. Garcon seems to be like David Givens, a good, reliable option but not a superstar.

    Sebastian Vollmer, Julian Edelman, Darius Butler, Patrick Chung, Pryor> Brown, Collie, Garcon, Powers.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    It's all about Manning, without him that team is 4-12 and Garcon and Collie are practice squad players.

    Manning is top notch and makes that team much better than it really is.

    BB has not drafted well, that's obvious.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    I don't know why I even bothered clicking the link to read that crap.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Why is it crap?Its basicallly tells the truth!The dolts are the best run franchise.U wonder how much losing Pioli will hurt this franchise.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Good article. I know a lot of people are going to hate it because it's not what they want to hear and will bash Gasper.

    Some key points to take into consideration:

    I don't think the Pats seem to care. I used to think Brady was the best competitor in football like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant are to basketball. I just don't see that in Brady anymore.
    That is an amazing stat! Indy is a small market and can't attract big name free agents and have to rely on solid drafting. As much as Polin is a prick, he's done one heck of a job drafting every year.
    This has been their problem for the last 5 years. They trade out of rounds for no reason but sign over the hill LB', DB's, WR's, you name it.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft


    You don't see his math's off? Three SB's in four years vs two SB's in four years ( technically only two appearances, the Colts haven't won it yet:rolleyes:). So you tell me, who's catching up to who exactly.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    There are a lot of posters on this forum who cannot realize that

    the Patriot's Superbowl wins are Ancient History. I'm an old duck who

    hopes he can see one more Superbowl win in his lifetime.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    you do realize Pioli was here for all of the "terrible" drafts over the past few years, right? and in his first season as the Chief's GM the best player to come out of their draft has been a kicker.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    What he said.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    I agree 100%.... The Colts success is from the performance of Peyton Manning.

    The Colts have done a good job with productive late round picks, but
    they have also their share of busts...

    Anthony Gonxalez - 1st round pick.... Has done very little before this years
    injury.

    They traded away a future 1st round piick to draft OT Ugoh early in the
    2nd round. He has been a bust.

    Garcon & Collie have decent stats, but they both drop a lot of balls.

    The Patriots are having a down year and the Colts are going to the superbowl, so it is easy to pick on the Pats.

    Why don't Gasper go look at the stats of 7th round draft pick David Givens in the playoffs compared to 1st round pick Marvin Harrison.

    Harrison may be a future hall of famer, but he was a playoff flop.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Down year?I felt they needed to clean house when it came to the OC and DC.Brady had a great season stats wise but it was kind of inconsistent at times!Mine u that he threw 6 td passes against the titans who where horrible at that time.This team needs to also get away with the dink and the dunk to Welker.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    I would not call Anthony Gonzalez a bust yet.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Because every year is the same as the next. The Patriots perform the Colts are chasing the Patriots. The Colts perform the Patriots are chasing the Colts.

    I realize where the Patriots have 'missed' in drafting and free agent acquisitions and I also realize where we've 'hit' so to speak.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    BB won 3 SB's with a core of players on defense that are all gone and should have been replaced 3 years ago and now they are paying for it.


    like mayo said the steelers have won 2 and the colts should win there 2th SB and in the time the pats have 0 super bowl wins
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    This has been their problem for the last 5 years. They trade out of rounds for no reason but sign over the hill LB', DB's, WR's, you name it.





    This says it all. We PASS on talent we can use because we may get more
    VALUE in a later round.
    This has been our problem imo and why we lack any real playmakers.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    It's not just the trading back it's the lack of talent in identifying players. If you trade back you must think that player (Clay matthews) isn't worth picking there, instead you go back a few slots and choose Patrick Chung?

    They traded up for Chad Jackson. :eek:

    Atleast grab a Revis type if you are going to do such a thing.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    I dont know how long Brady will play but he still in his prime and u have to try and get something out of his arm.I Know everyone brings up the 3 superbowl rings but that seems like eaons ago.I want him to get that 4th ring.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Yeah, part of that is because the guy they blew a first rounder on appears to suck (Ugoh).


    Peyton Manning makes the rest of the colts offensive players look a lot better than they are.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    The NFL has a salary floor...or, it did. THe colts spend just as much money as anyone else. The player in football who makes the most endorsement money in football players for the colts.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Not to mention the FAs we sign.

    Monty Beisel? OK, he was cheap but what?
    A Thomas? What a heartbreaking stiff he is.
    Duane Starks, check that he was a 3rd round pick traded for! total bust.

    We haven't had a good signing in a long time.

    This year I want them to dump Watson, Wilfork, Bodden and Mankins for picks and sign Dunta ?Robinson of the Texans. He's way BETTER than bodden.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    I agree with all that except for one thing; the Pats haven't exactly been at the bottom of the barrel during the time other teams have won. The Pats have always been right there and in many ways surpassed the accomplishments of those other teams even during their so-called demise.

    I don't disagree that the Pats have problems, what I'm saying is that the Pats are not chasing the illustrious and stellar path of the Colts, or anybody else for that matter.

    Quite the contrary, most sucessful teams have chased us. They study us as a matter of fact and admit so publicly, in fact a very good argument can be made for "beaten at our own game".

    We don't chase anybody, it's quite obvious they're chasing us. :confused2:

    BB needs to counterpunch. There was a lot to like about the 09 team, there are quite a few I'd like to see back and a few maybe not so much.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    I'm sorry, did I wake up in 2005?

    Kids in elementary school right now have no recollection of the Patriots winning any Super Bowl, nevermind the most memorable one, Super Bowl 36.

    Let's hope they're not in high school by the time the Pats win again.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Nope. I see 2 SB appearances with 1 ring already and another possibly coming, vs. 1 losing SB appearance, in the past 5 years.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    i agree 100% one of the biggest problems with the pats is they are trying to turn tom brady, in to manning, and it's not working for them. and thats not a knock on brady,


    look at joe montana, stats they are good but noting like dan marinos, but montana has 4 rings because he had HOF players all over the place on he's team on both sides of the ball


    they need to put a team around brady get a real RB rebuild the defense. and upgrade the O line the pats can't win with brady throwing the ball 40 to 50 times a game.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    No offense buy you must be higher than a mother ****er if you think the Patriots have drafted better than the Colts.
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    Re: Gasper:patriots are feeling Colts' draft

    Agree. I'd love to take "We've won 3 Super Bowls" out of Patriot fans jargon.
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