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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I just started another thread. Florio thinks Judge Berman has already decided how he is going to rule and basically it looks like he is pressuring the NFL to cave. If he is threatening to unseal the transcripts and the NFLPA and Brady want them unsealed, it seems like a clear warning to Goodell and the NFL.
But you aren't going to get that from this case. This is about whether or not Goodell has violated the CBA and that's not about whether balls were deflated. First steps first, we need to ensure Brady doesn't miss 4 games. Then we work on lifting the veil on what happened with these stupid balls.
Sorry about that. Didn't see your thread.
What if the NFL caves, and then people like Florio and Curran continue to expose the story?
This is true, there really is a lot at stake for the NFLPA and future punishments and proceedings.Though I agree with you. This case was filed initially by the NFL so it is about upholding the suspension, on paper anyway.
This is a chance for the NFLPA to expose it for what is and negate the suspension.
Sorry about that. Didn't see your thread.
Could this be why the NFL is so insistent on an admission of guilt? I'm no lawyer, but I have to think a public admission of guilt would pretty much eliminate any chance of filing and winning a defamation suit.Unfortunately, people's minds are pretty much made up. I hope a defamation suit is on the way from both Brady and the Patriots, the latter of which could be a whopper financially.
This is true, there really is a lot at stake for the NFLPA and future punishments and proceedings.
perhaps the best part of this is that Goodell has to show up to negotiate as a litigant, that is one of the parties side-by side with Brady and the NFLPA, instead of lording it over them.
Well that's part of the point he wore all hats and hopefully he will be called out on that. If PT had been the arbitrator he would only be a witness.I didn't really give it much thought until now. But why is Roger Goodell even involved in this court case? He was the "neutral" arbitrator in the suspension. As far as I'm concerned he is a witness now and nothing more. How can a "neutral" arbitrator be involved when this has moved on to Federal court? I guess because he is the commissioner but what if the NFLPA got Roger to let Tagliabue be the arbitrator? would the proceedings remain the same as in would Brady be sitting in with PT instead of RG aug 12th?
The League filed first to prevent the NFLPA from filing in MN right? It was just a tactical move because essentially they filed a case against their own case.Though I agree with you. This case was filed initially by the NFL so it is about upholding the suspension, on paper anyway.
This is a chance for the NFLPA to expose it for what is and negate the suspension.
I didn't really give it much thought until now. But why is Roger Goodell even involved in this court case? He was the "neutral" arbitrator in the suspension. As far as I'm concerned he is a witness now and nothing more. How can a "neutral" arbitrator be involved when this has moved on to Federal court? I guess because he is the commissioner but what if the NFLPA got Roger to let Tagliabue be the arbitrator? would the proceedings remain the same as in would Brady be sitting in with PT instead of RG aug 12th?
I don't know this judge very well but NYers for the most part hate Brady and are cheering the punishment. If this judge is part of that landscape it's not a very good sign. If he's not, then he isn't a very big part of the landscape.After living in NYC for almost 25 years, my instinct on Judge Berman is that he is as "friendly" a judge as the NFLPA and Brady could have hoped to get, whether in Massachusetts or New York. Even in Massachusetts, they could have ended up with an unfriendly judge in the court room assignment. Trying to file in MN instead of MA when the case was already on the docket in NY was probably a mistake, but, as the old saying goes, "No harm, no foul."
I think the NFL's "preemptive strike" by filing a Motion in the Southern District to have the "Arbiter's" ruling upheld might have been a great in theory, but it looks like it probably backfired on them.
As I said above, I've lived in Manhattan for 25 years. Guys like Berman are part of the landscape; I haven't asked around, but I am sure that I am no more than "one degree of separation" away from him. These guys have lifetimes of NYU disdain for Harvard weasels like Wells. They share a common background (I've learned never to underestimate that in NY!) and speak the same language when it comes to guys like Kessler (who went to Columbia, which, while an Ivy League school, is considered a "New York" school first in this neck of the woods). All of that doesn't say how he's going to rule, but just that Judge Berman isn't the white glove jurist the NFL was hoping to get.
I now suspect that there was little that the NFLPA's attorneys could have done to anticipate the NY Motion by the NFL, but, knowing New Yorkers of a certain ilk, I'm sure there was a lot of screaming and shouting over it between the PA and its attorneys; as I've posted elsewhere, that's one of those things that attorneys and their clients work out when it's time to pay the bill. But the most important thing is, once again, "No harm, no foul."
The League filed first to prevent the NFLPA from filing in MN right? It was just a tactical move because essentially they filed a case against their own case.
I don't know this judge very well but NYers for the most part hate Brady and are cheering the punishment. If this judge is part of that landscape it's not a very good sign. If he's not, then he isn't a very big part of the landscape.
I just don't understand how you can make the case that someone being a card carrying typical member of a city populated by the people with the most bias against the Patriots is somehow good for the Patriots.