Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by drew4008, Dec 2, 2007.
Fins getting beat down by the worst team in the league (other than themselves). 0-16 here we come!
As bas as they look (Real bad), I still think they can beat any team remaining on their schedule, excluding the Pats of course.
The Bills, Ravens, and Bengals don't exactly evoke fear.
Hoping for 0-16, but I still can't quite see it yet.
Today is the lowest of lows. The offense has been opened up a bit for Beck and he hasn't responded well. Hopegully he learns a lot from this game and applies it next week. The pass protection has broken down, the receivers are dropping the football and we are on our 5th and 6th string running backs. Brown, Chatman, Williams and Cobbs are all hurt so we're left with Samkon Gado and Lorenzo Booker.
I remember some finheaven members were comparing Booker to Reggie Bush before the season.:rofl:
Not sorry enough to hope it doesn't come to fruition, but it must be brutal as a fan.
The Bengals offense is still too much for the Dolphins to overcome. The Ravens weakness on defense is through the air, but the Dolphins lack the QB to take advantage of that. The Bills are better coached and have played better all year.
My point: yeah, that's a pretty easy schedule, but when you suck more than the crappy teams you play it's damn near impossible to count anything as a possible win, let alone a definite win.
And the Jets are running up the score, but CBS is complementing them for running up the score. Jeez
I have never in my life witnessed an NFL team this incompetent. Every Sunday this team is outplayed in every facet of the game. The entire front office needs to be fired ASAP. The whole team needs to be released, as well. Beck is horrible.
The Dolphins head coach for prez!!!!
The score should be 40-6... that fumble recovery was a fluke TD
That's what they get for drafting a KICK RETURNER with their number 1 overall pick this year. LOL.
Well, they have a near-lock on the #1 overall pick. So I'm guessing Beck's starting career will be pretty short.
I thought this was the week they would get a win. To get smacked by the hated Jets who are awful like that has to leave a mark.
You disgust me, dude. Beck is horrible? It was his 3rd career game; sure he played awful but my god you'd think we'd give our first rookie QB since Marino more then 3 stinkin' game.
Learn some patience dude, what good is firing the entire front office and releasing everyone going to do? We have a complete roster change this season as 35 players are new. Rebuilding doesn't happen over night, it takes a while. Why not give the youngsters time to develop?
Get a clue.
That's pretty ridiculous. Reggie Bush is very over rated and had no business being drafted in the first round as a slash player that can't shoulder a load, but Lorenzo Booker is no where near Reggie yet.
Well I'm not sure what information you're basing this guess off of because I don't know many rookie QBs who's careers were over after start #3.
Also, what QB do you suggest the Dolphins take #1? There isn't a QB in the top 10 of the big board.
But he comes from a good family!!!!
Ahh forget it, not even worth it. It's obvious you don't have anything to support your opinion.
True. I'm curious on your take as to what you guys should/will take at that pick. Defensive end/tackle (Dorsey) seems like the only pick which would make sense that high. Maybe OT (ie. Baker/Long)? Whatever you say, please don't act like most of the idiot wannabe draftniks on this forum who continuously say "no way we're using that pick, we're trading, blah blah", even though they don't even know what that means or what it entails.
There are 3 players that are going to be considered for that top spot and you mentioned just one of them.
Glenn Dorsey is the most likely beacuse we are awful in the middle of our run defense and Dorsey can provide a clog and a good pass rush as well; he might be one of the best defensive tackles to ever come out.
2nd is Chris Long. The defensive end from Virginia dominates every tackle that trys to block him. A high motor guy that can beat you with speed or power, Long would help our aging defensive line slightly less then Dorsey.
The 3rd option is one I'm not to fond of but one that I've accepted. We will see how well Ronnie Brown's rehab is going come April but if it's slow, don't be surprised if Miami takes Darren McFadden.
It's going to be one of these 3 guys. I was hoping Miami would win some games as I actually don't want the #1 pick. I want to trade down and trading the #1 pick is almost impossible.
So if you're asking what my big board is for the Dolphins it goes:
1. Trade down
2. Glenn Dorsey
3. Chris Long
4. Darren McFadden
I can deal with taking any of these 4 options number 1.
We've read here constant blather about what an offensive genius Cam is. We've read what a top flight WR that TOP 10 Pick Kick Returner Ted Ginn is, we've read here wonders about Glenn (sic) Beck. And what do we see? A team ROUTED by the poorly coached, 2 win Jets. A QB tossing 3 picks and still without a single TD pass. Not one.
Beck, Ginn, Cam and the lphins are PATHETIC!
Change that to #2 and try to convince the rest of this board that, would ya?
Trading #2 isn't impossible but it's not exactly a certainty. Those top 3 picks have so much value it's going to cost a team an entire draft to move into those spots.
No, it does not need to cost a team that much. A competent GM can shed some bogus value points to get done what's needed to be done.
Hey, I wonder if the Pats can draft a good kick returner with their Top 10 pick?
The Dolphins need quality players more than McFadden, especially because Brown really came on this year.
They really, really ought to parlay their draft position into as many picks as possible and try to redo what Jimmy Johnson did in 1996.
Look at chart value, guy. You're wrong, it takes a ton to move up that high unless you're moving up a spot or 2 and even then it's a lot.
No, but I'm sure they can find a receiver that can't crack a spot on the team or a safety who can't get a start over James Sanders.
Ted Ginn has already done way more then Chad Jackson.
Actually they're very comparable... Jackson has 3 TDs, Ginn has 1 (zero receiving). Neither can be deemed as good picks as of right now, yet they both have a case for their disappointment (Jackson has a plethora of good WRs ahead of him, and Ginn has no QB, no RB... and basically no offense around him).
Your facts are wrong. Ginn has 1 receiving TD and 1 return TD.
Yeah they've both come along slow but I'd much rather have Ginn then Jackson at this point and your point about Ginn having no offense around him is valid. Jackson has been injured to much to try to beat out Stallworth, Welker, Gaffney and co.
Don't forget future picks, players, etc. It can happen. Also, the value chart has been tweaked and will continue to be because of what you're talking about: overrating the top picks.
As far as Ginn, when the Pats drafted CJ, they didn't need a QB, a DE, an OL or - come to think of it - almost any position to be improved. Ginn would have been a solid second-rounder, but come on. Don't tell us you were happy with that pick. I have more respect for you than that.
And he comes from a good family. We all know why Ginn was drafted.
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