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  1. PATRIOTSFANINPA

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    The same construction company made both indoor facilities in 2003 in Dallas and New England

    I should hope the Pats organization take good measures that this indoor practice facility used for the past several years is not made of cardboard whan it comes to high winds like it did in the Dallas Tragedy - We sure don't want to see something like in Dallas to happen again here in New England.

    Patriots' view on matter is to thoroughly check practice facility - The Boston Globe
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    Texas has extreme weather conditions.

    It's tragedies like this that spawn media hysteria.
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    My guess is that if it was similar in construction that if they knew of severe conditions like that...with almost tornado winds..they would evacuate MUCH earlier...weather like that is rare here...in Texas a lot more common. I am sure they will take care of that.
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    I am sure it will be fine in Dana-Farber, but I think ALL teams indoor facilities are thinking of securing the safety of their respective buildings right now.
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    We should certainly make sure that the facility is evacuated in times of tornadoes or near tornadoes. The winds in Dallas were 64 miles an hour.
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    I dont know how often it happens in Massachusetts per year but here in Pa. we usually see winds like that of 50 MPH or more about 3 or 4 times a year and for a very short period of it happening - I would assume with Massachusetts right off the Atlantic which of course sustains higher winds per average, it would happen a bit more often than with my inland area
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    I'm sure all facilities will be re-tested, but unforcasted winds of greater than 60 miles per hour are unusual near the coast. Tornados are more likely near Worcester or even further west, but even then you usually ahve at least a half hour warning of severe winds.

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    Massachusetts has extreme weather conditions and tornadoes and microbursts so checking the facility isn't out of line for them nor for the media to report it.
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    The article states Dallas replaced their roof in 08. The Pats replaced the outer covering but that's only cosmetic covering. The DF'a weathered it's share of snow storms with no problem.

    The company wouldn't comment if the Pats have the same type of Summit product as Dallas (Dallas's is also bigger than ours) so hopefully those things may make a difference but the Dallas incident might continue to grow:

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    The Dana Farber Field House, to my knowledge, is a permanent structure. So it has a foundation and such. Things that the one in Taxes didn't have because it wasn't a permanent structure. As a permanent structure, there are much stricter rules that have to be followed. Like permits and inspections and such.

    The reason it happened is because it wasn't designed to withstand 60 MPH winds with gusts that were greater. And as soon as the building envelope was breached (by the walls lifting up) the uplift pressure and down pressures were too much for the framing and fabric to withstand. That's why it collapsed.
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    Massachusetts, Foxboro in particular, is in a different wind zone in comparison to Dallas. In Dallas, permanent structures only have to meet a 90 MPH wind rating in the field of the structure, where as in Foxboro, I believe its either 105 or 120. Also, there is no snow loading that needs to be accounted for in Dallas, which has to be accounted for in Foxboro.
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    Which makes my point more...they are checking to cover their butts but it's something they should do anyway with the extreme weather.
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    Well this changes everything for me.

    Until I heard this, my "tornado shelter" plan would have been to seek safey in a Practice Bubble.
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    I wouldn't worry too much about our guy's practice facility. Microbursts are related to severe Thunderstorms and there's something about Texas' climate that makes them more likely there than just about anywhere else in the country. A once in 10 years Thunderstorm here is more like a daily occurrence in the summer down there.
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    How does it make your point that the building standards and inspection standards are higher in Massachusetts than in Texas to begin with? Because that was MY point. And, while people talk about payoffs and bribes and stuff, that isn't the norm in the building industry.
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    I never made any point about the building standards, bribes, payoffs, or anything in the building industry. My point was only about similarly harsh weather. You mentioned the snow loads, that plays into what I mentioned with the harsh weather.
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