Bruschi starts the season?????

[RoughingthePasser]

He'll be back for Miami @ home.

 

[sarge]

I guess I haven't been foloowing this one closely enough (just got back form vacation), but do we know for sure what bone it was he broke?

 

[PatsFanInVa]

My love puppet, who use to work ER and ambulance calls, says 6-8 weeks like any other bone... but adds "any time you put something foreign in it's gonna take longer than a normal broken bone" when I mentioned the screw.

Doesn't sound like it'll be before 6 weeks.

PFnV

 

[RayClay]

I guess I haven't been foloowing this one closely enough (just got back form vacation), but do we know for sure what bone it was he broke?

Scaphoid bone. Peanut sized bone in the wrist.

 

[RayClay]

Does it say anywhere on those sites that any information they offer is "absolute"? No, I didn't think so.

The vast majority of athletes treated by sports orthopedists are weekend warriors, not to mention patients like my 70 year old aunt who shattered her heel and who has also had multiple knee surgeries, who go to sports medicine practitioners because they tend to do a better job of restoring mobility. The poor bastids who have to factor her into their prognostications are screwed. If she can't take a pill for it it ain't getting better because she is rehab aversive.

You might recall earlier this season there were prognostications that indicated that an individual recovering from face plant reconstruction that required plates and screws and involved upper and lower jaw as well as orbital bone fractures would not be cleared for contact for 6 months. Only bionic Ben shattered that myth last night. Just like Culpepper and Brees and Noodle all returned to the field months before the injuries they suffered should have allowed them to according to all the sites I Google.

Tedy was very careful and conservative with his return last season. The one most sites and experts said would never happen. If he says he'll be back for the season opener, I wouldn't question him. And I wouldn't expect he'd be too far off in his estimation - like maybe week 2-3 at most.

I think the doctor's know more about how long this bone takes to heal than Tedy, but what do I know?

Maybe he studies orthopedics in his spare time.

 

[sarge]

Scaphoid bone. Peanut sized bone in the wrist.

Wow. I was shocked that the Pats were more specific then just an extremety injured.

This is unprecedented that they got that much in detail about the injury

 

[spacecrime]

Not according to any medical sites I've seen.

Google "scaphoid bone" and tell me the site that says 4 weeks.

These are preseumbly the same sites that said Palmer, Culpepper and Harrison would not be ready to play for a least a year?

Don't put too much credence in WebMD. They are predicting recovery time for the average American, ie, couch potato. They are not addressing a professional athlete with the world's best injury rehab program, an athlete who is willing to rehab all day, every day.

 

[spacecrime]

I guess if you only read what you want, then modify it, you can convince yourself of anything.

But you can't convince a difficult to heal bone to heal faster.

Of course you can heal a bone faster than a website says you can. If TO believed what was written about him, he wouldn't have played in the Superbowl.

As far as modifying what you read on the internet, you have to. You have to consider the assumptions built into the article, and who it was written about and why, and if it isn't the exact situation you are dealing with, then taking everything written on the internet as gospel is not the way to go.

Carson Palmer would not even be walking yet if what was written about him on the internet last February were true.

If you or I broke that wrist bone, year, I'm sure it would be a minimum of six weeks before either of us could effectively shed NFL centers and guards and tackle TJ Duckett. For us the six weeks is real. It ain't necessarily so for Bruschi. It might be, but there is no minimum time for Bruschi to heal to be determined by googling the internet.

 

[RayClay]

These are preseumbly the same sites that said Palmer, Culpepper and Harrison would not be ready to play for a least a year?

Don't put too much credence in WebMD. They are predicting recovery time for the average American, ie, couch potato. They are not addressing a professional athlete with the world's best injury rehab program, an athlete who is willing to rehab all day, every day.

You can presume what you will.

I quoted Dr. Morgan from Tomases article extensively. That article had some disturbing scenarios a responsible team physician might take into account.

These guys seem pretty well versed and the second one wrote a book on hand surgery.

If someone has contradictory evidence from a sports Orthopedic specialist I'd love to hear it.

http://www.arthroscopy.com/sp03000.htm

Or I could just say a bunch of stuff because I'm on the interenet.

 

[Brady-To-Branch]

You can presume what you will.

I quoted Dr. Morgan from Tomases article extensively. That article had some disturbing scenarios a responsible team physician might take into account.

These guys seem pretty well versed and the second one wrote a book on hand surgery.

If someone has contradictory evidence from a sports Orthopedic specialist I'd love to hear it.


http://www.arthroscopy.com/sp03000.htm

Ray,

I agree. Tedy shouldn't rush back. He should return when he's 100%. The PUP would give Bruschi the time he needs and free up a roster spot in the process.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

I think the doctor's know more about how long this bone takes to heal than Tedy, but what do I know?

Maybe he studies orthopedics in his spare time.

He may or may not - he's pretty well versed on stroke and patent foreman rehabilitation, but I'm sure his docs at MGH are pretty well versed on scaphoid injuries. That's same facility where his own docs told him there was no reason why he could not return to the football field after suffering his very specific stroke. Why would you assume that his very own docs who have examined and pinned his very own scaphoid may have not told him that the best case scenario for his specific injury and circumstance (as opposed to the average minimum) is 4 weeks? Do you know something the rest of us don't that suggests Tedy ever talks out of his ass?

 

[RayClay]

He may or may not - he's pretty well versed on stroke and patent foreman rehabilitation, but I'm sure his docs at MGH are pretty well versed on scaphoid injuries. That's same facility where his own docs told him there was no reason why he could not return to the football field after suffering his very specific stroke. Why would you assume that his very own docs who have examined and pinned his very own scaphoid may have not told him that the best case scenario for his specific injury and circumstance (as opposed to the average minimum) is 4 weeks? Do you know something the rest of us don't that suggests Tedy ever talks out of his ass?

Bruschi never said the doctors told him that. Why would you assume that's the case?

Tedy's a warrior that's always going to try to play. It's all PR now anyway.

I only know what I read from the experts. Belichick is no fool. I don't think Bruschi plays until he's ready based on the likelihood of career suicide if this doesn't heal correctly.

 

[RoughingthePasser]

good points.
He's a conditioned athlete-I agree w/ prev. post

There are other "remedies" to help Tedy w/ any pain and discomfort etc to get back out-he's more than ready to go and Monty needs him around to learn.

Im still stickin to Miami@home

 

[mgteich]

We should be prepared to play without Bruschi for a few games. That would give us TWO open starting linebackser spots.

If all goes well, we will have only one open starting spot.

To state the obvious: At the end of last eyar (last half and playoffs) linebacking was a strength for the patriots; now it is a weakness. And those of use who drink the koolaid think this is because Bruschi may be out for a couple of games.

mark

 

[pats-blue]

Wow. I was shocked that the Pats were more specific then just an extremety injured.

This is unprecedented that they got that much in detail about the injury

I agree has anyone got a link that the PATS or TEDY mention what bone he broke? I'm not talking about a rumor or doctor theorizing that have never examined Tedy. I only heard he had surgury to repair a bone in his wrist. I never heard any mention of WHAT bone. Can someone provide a link to the Pats statement that mentions the "scaphoid"....

 

[DaBruinz]

Scaphoid bone. Peanut sized bone in the wrist.

I am pretty sure that this was just speculation on the part of fans and the media and that nothing was confirmed by Bruschi, the Patriots or his doctors. If you have the article handy where one of those three said that it was a scaphoid bone fracture, I'd apprecitate seeing it.

 

[DaBruinz]

Bruschi never said the doctors told him that. Why would you assume that's the case?

You're right. Bruschi never said that. But several renowned Heart Surgeons from Boston did say it and they know a lot more about the subject than we do.

Tedy's a warrior that's always going to try to play. It's all PR now anyway.

I only know what I read from the experts. Belichick is no fool. I don't think Bruschi plays until he's ready based on the likelihood of career suicide if this doesn't heal correctly.

Yes, and all you know is that based on speculation, Bruschi broke his scaphoid bone.

 

[RayClay]

You're right. Bruschi never said that. But several renowned Heart Surgeons from Boston did say it and they know a lot more about the subject than we do.

Yes, and all you know is that based on speculation, Bruschi broke his scaphoid bone.

Heart surgeons say his wrist would heal in 4 weeks?

All I know is both newspapers reported his surgery as fact.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2006/08/10/bruschi_has_surgery_on_wrist/

By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff | August 10, 2006

FOXBOROUGH -- Tedy Bruschi underwent surgery on his broken wrist yesterday morning at Massachusetts General Hospital. The surgery repaired the scaphoid bone in his wrist, a source close to the Patriots linebacker confirmed.

http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots/view.bg?articleid=152206&srvc=sports

By John Tomase
Boston Herald Sports Writer

Thursday, August 10, 2006 - Updated: 09:10 AM EST

FOXBORO - Tedy Bruschi had a screw implanted in his broken wrist yesterday and, according to a source close to the Patriots linebacker, hopes to return for the season opener.

Bruschi broke the scaphoid, a peanut-sized bone under the thumb that helps with tasks essential to a linebacker - gripping, pushing and pulling. When the bone is broken, experts say even a world-class athlete would be hard-pressed to perform a pushup.

When asked about the surgery, Belichick would not confirm knowing anyone named Bruschi or any familiarity with a sport played with a cowhide ball.