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In my opinion, Butler's momentum on the INT made it pretty difficult to consider downing it in the end zone, but that's just the way I see it.
As a matter of fact, someone here claimed that Butler actually addressed the question at some point after the game during an interview. He (supposedly) said that he was concerned about giving SEA 2 points on a safety and being forced to punt the ball, so he fell down as soon as he was able to outside of the endzone. If true, that's an incredible job of quick processing and reacting for an undrafted rookie.
It has certainly been brought up at times, TBS.
In my opinion, Butler's momentum on the INT made it pretty difficult to consider downing it in the end zone, but that's just the way I see it.
As a matter of fact, someone here claimed that Butler actually addressed the question at some point after the game during an interview. He (supposedly) said that he was concerned about giving SEA 2 points on a safety and being forced to punt the ball, so he fell down as soon as he was able to outside of the endzone. If true, that's an incredible job of quick processing and reacting for an undrafted rookie.
That's all you need to remember. Seattle's "luck" to get within scoring range was much, much greater than the Pats' "luck" in keeping them out of the end zone. Another way of looking at it is Kearse's catch and Butler's interception canceled each other out. Toss out those two plays and the commonly expected ending would be the Seahawks running out of time or downs.
Im sorry if this has previously been discussed by man im so sick of reading about how "lucky" the patriots were to win the game. I've talked to a whole lot of unbiased viewers and the common theme is that the patriots were the better team for 3 of the 4 quarters.
The most annoying part is you hear the haters talk about how lucky the patriots were to win because of the bad play call that lead to the Interception.
It annoys me because if the Seahawks somehow manage to finish that final drive and score then the narrative will be how the Patriots deserved to win but the Seahawks had an all time flukey/lucky catch to put them in a spot to win the game.
There are different kinds of intelligence, often within the same person. You have to feel a bit for Butler coming out of nowhere and suddenly thrust into everybody's spotlight. He was a guest on NFLN the other night and really struggled to express himself; the hosts did a good job of helping him along. I just hope he keeps his head on straight and doesn't get overwhelmed by his sudden celebrity. Hopefully his teammates are watching over him a bit.Butler definitely showcased some incredible football IQ in that situation. Amazing. It kind of shocks me that he isn't able to put sentences together though, considering how intelligent he is on the field.
Though I don't know it for a fact, I have to believe that the Patriots PR people, Stacy James et al will sit down and help him out getting him some polish as I think they do will all the other players who get in front of the camera. Look at the players when they initially get to the Pats and after a few years. Maybe that explains why so many have gone into TV afterwards. Some are more at ease in front of the camera, Tedy B, Willie McG and others take a while to get there...There are different kinds of intelligence, often within the same person. You have to feel a bit for Butler coming out of nowhere and suddenly thrust into everybody's spotlight. He was a guest on NFLN the other night and really struggled to express himself; the hosts did a good job of helping him along. I just hope he keeps his head on straight and doesn't get overwhelmed by his sudden celebrity. Hopefully his teammates are watching over him a bit.
That's a little harsh. Just my opinion.Butler definitely showcased some incredible football IQ in that situation. Amazing. It kind of shocks me that he isn't able to put sentences together though, considering how intelligent he is on the field.
Sometimes you get the breaks (snow bowl/tuck rule, Butler Int) and sometimes you don't ( helmet catch, Manningham catch, Caldwell drop, Welker drop). and often one play or play call can make the difference. Get all the breaks and people call you lucky, don't get them and you're unlucky....
That play was part preparation ( let the clock run knowing they only had one TO which affects play call) and part fortune that Butler recognized it and was able to make the int without getting flagged for PI.....
I have heard people say they were "lucky" but maybe it's because I'm in Philly where people don't know what a Lombardi trophy looks like...
That's a little harsh. Just my opinion.
I only talk to fans of football teams with 4 Lombardis or more. Sorry, but if your football team doesn't at least have 4 Lombardi trophies, I just can't be seen talking to you. Too embarrassing.
There are different kinds of intelligence, often within the same person. You have to feel a bit for Butler coming out of nowhere and suddenly thrust into everybody's spotlight. He was a guest on NFLN the other night and really struggled to express himself; the hosts did a good job of helping him along. I just hope he keeps his head on straight and doesn't get overwhelmed by his sudden celebrity. Hopefully his teammates are watching over him a bit.
Friend, why would you necessarily equate the two? I know plenty of gifted or highly skilled people who aren't very articulate. I also know well-spoken folks who are dopes. Sometimes it's cultural or related to upbringing, or how a person is built emotionally. Butler is a young man from a modest background who suddenly became famous. If that continues I'm sure he'll become more glib over time. I'm glad he's (so far) staying humble amidst it all. I just hope he keeps his head straight.Harsh, but true. I was surprised by how difficult he had it speaking to media. I didn't make that statement to put him down, but merely to illustrate the polarity between his on the field decision making, and his deficiency in social skills.
Friend, why would you necessarily equate the two? I know plenty of gifted or highly skilled people who aren't very articulate. I also know well-spoken folks who are dopes. Sometimes it's cultural or related to upbringing, or how a person is built emotionally. Butler is a young man from a modest background who suddenly became famous. If that continues I'm sure he'll become more glib over time.
Also, I think, he is just young and VERY shy. He's also very humble, which is a great attribute. He comes from a meager background where proper education is probably a hard thing to come by. He's overcome a lot. He took what only America can offer and grabbed it by the horns. I like him.Friend, why would you necessarily equate the two? I know plenty of gifted or highly skilled people who aren't very articulate. I also know well-spoken folks who are dopes. Sometimes it's cultural or related to upbringing, or how a person is built emotionally. Butler is a young man from a modest background who suddenly became famous. If that continues I'm sure he'll become more glib over time. I'm glad he's (so far) staying humble amidst it all. I just hope he keeps his head straight.
Im sorry if this has previously been discussed by man im so sick of reading about how "lucky" the patriots were to win the game. I've talked to a whole lot of unbiased viewers and the common theme is that the patriots were the better team for 3 of the 4 quarters.
The most annoying part is you hear the haters talk about how lucky the patriots were to win because of the bad play call that lead to the Interception.
It annoys me because if the Seahawks somehow manage to finish that final drive and score then the narrative will be how the Patriots deserved to win but the Seahawks had an all time flukey/lucky catch to put them in a spot to win the game.
Im sorry if this has previously been discussed by man im so sick of reading about how "lucky" the patriots were to win the game. I've talked to a whole lot of unbiased viewers and the common theme is that the patriots were the better team for 3 of the 4 quarters.
The most annoying part is you hear the haters talk about how lucky the patriots were to win because of the bad play call that lead to the Interception.
It annoys me because if the Seahawks somehow manage to finish that final drive and score then the narrative will be how the Patriots deserved to win but the Seahawks had an all time flukey/lucky catch to put them in a spot to win the game.
I'm trying to decide which was luckier, the 5-bobble on the back catch that got Seattle down there, or the interception by Butler to seal the win? Also, ask the haters if holding Seattle to 12 completions for the entire game was luck. Ask them if Brady's record 37 completions was luck. Ask them if holding Seattle's KO and Punt return teams to a total combined yardage of 3 yards was luck. Ask them if scoring 28 points against the NFL's number one defense was luck, including 14 points in the last 8 minutes of the game. Or, you can just ignore the haters, that continue to make idiots out of themselves.Im sorry if this has previously been discussed by man im so sick of reading about how "lucky" the patriots were to win the game. I've talked to a whole lot of unbiased viewers and the common theme is that the patriots were the better team for 3 of the 4 quarters.
The most annoying part is you hear the haters talk about how lucky the patriots were to win because of the bad play call that lead to the Interception.
It annoys me because if the Seahawks somehow manage to finish that final drive and score then the narrative will be how the Patriots deserved to win but the Seahawks had an all time flukey/lucky catch to put them in a spot to win the game.