BB rips Welker

[Ring 6]

Patriots fans, and bill friggin belichick, whining about dirty plays and cheating.... Man oh man it does not get any more pot vs kettle.


The patriots run, and have run the exact same play, and also done much worse. It wasnt a dirty play. Deal with it

Every team runs pick plays, BB said that as well in the press conference.
The rule is that the offensive player cannot initiate contact, which Welker clearly did. That makes it OPI, not a dirty play.
The manner in which he hit Talib is what makes it a dirty play.
Go back to Buffalo and prepare for another 5 win season, this is playoff talk, you don't belong.

 

[Joker]

SuperStupidSister has a sore poop pipe from yet another season of embarrassing pig slop. Patriots fans don't have to do anything but thank God they are NOT pathetic Bills fans.

 

[Clonamery]

Patriots fans, and bill friggin belichick, whining about dirty plays and cheating.... Man oh man it does not get any more pot vs kettle.


The patriots run, and have run the exact same play, and also done much worse. It wasnt a dirty play. Deal with it

You mad Bro?

 

[BKBroiler]

Mike Periera (sp) said that it wasn't OPI because the ball arrived as Welker hits Talib, FWIW.

Pretty sure someone on twitter debunked that last night with a screen capture that showed the ball was still in the air when Welker made contact.

 

[Koma]

In a pick play you get in the way, "rub" him, make the DB alter his line.

Pick plays don't involve diving at the knees of the DB.

This was a lot worse than "just a pick play"

While I don't agree about the diving at the knees part, you make a good point about "normal" pick plays. The vast majority of the time, you see those right off the line of scrimmage, so a receiver can get open quickly. You don't see them after a receiver has run half way across the field.

You also don't see a receiver knock a defender down on a pick play, the same way you wouldn't see a defender knock a receiver down when they're running a pattern. It would be too obvious of a penalty.

If the pick wasn't so far from what we're used to seeing as pick plays, no one would be claiming it was a dirty play.

 

[Koma]

Patriots fans, and bill friggin belichick, whining about dirty plays and cheating.... Man oh man it does not get any more pot vs kettle.


The patriots run, and have run the exact same play, and also done much worse. It wasnt a dirty play. Deal with it

Examples, please.

 

[SuperWilliamsBrothers]

Just wait until your HOF QB retires and you have to deal with a **** heap at QB for 10 years because the rest of your team isn't bad enough to finish high enough to get you a new QB. The patriots haven't always been good, and the bills haven't always been bad, and it won't always be like this

 

[everlong]

Just wait until your HOF QB retires and you have to deal with a **** heap at QB for 10 years because the rest of your team isn't bad enough to finish high enough to get you a new QB. The patriots haven't always been good, and the bills haven't always been bad, and it won't always be like this

I'm sure Bills fans will party like no other fan base when Brady retires.

I think Ralph needs to sell the team for the Bills to be good again. Problem is they likely move when that happens.

 

[FalconHeavy]

Every team runs pick plays, BB said that as well in the press conference.
The rule is that the offensive player cannot initiate contact, which Welker clearly did. That makes it OPI, not a dirty play.
The manner in which he hit Talib is what makes it a dirty play.
Go back to Buffalo and prepare for another 5 win season, this is playoff talk, you don't belong.

LOL Andy, that was brutal

 

[livinginthe past]

I was shocked that welker wasn't flagged for a pick after that hit since Homan barley brushed a denver player and Was. I thought 'well i guess that mustn't have been a pick because they just called on about two minutes earlier on the pats'. Hooman got in somebodys way, welker took his player out.

Totally agree.

The irony being that ealier in the game the commentators were talking about how the Patriots had worked out when the refs would throw flags - in particular the McCourty play on Julius Thomas.

As much as I hate injuries, I can't put this all on Welker - what he did was illegal, but the Patriots and Denver do push the limit on the crosser plays and picks all season.

At the end of the day, there were small opening where we could have applied a little scoreboard pressure on Manning - namely Brady being his usual awful self on deep throws - which would have made all the difference.

Del Rio would have caught ALOT of crap had Vereen got in for the 2pt play to close the gap to 8 points - we wouldn't have been forced to onside kick and may have had got a good shot at the EZto tie it.

Alas, wasn't to be.

 

[patman12]

Just wait until your HOF QB retires and you have to deal with a **** heap at QB for 10 years because the rest of your team isn't bad enough to finish high enough to get you a new QB. The patriots haven't always been good, and the bills haven't always been bad, and it won't always be like this

Is the cyclical nature of sports new to you?

 

[resdubwhite]

Patriots fans, and bill friggin belichick, whining about dirty plays and cheating.... Man oh man it does not get any more pot vs kettle.


The patriots run, and have run the exact same play, and also done much worse. It wasnt a dirty play. Deal with it

Scott Norwood.


goodbye.

 

[dales804]

Just wait until your HOF QB retires and you have to deal with a **** heap at QB for 10 years because the rest of your team isn't bad enough to finish high enough to get you a new QB. The patriots haven't always been good, and the bills haven't always been bad, and it won't always be like this

Thanks, genius. You're saying things change? If you're pinning your hopes of the Bills being relevant again on Brady retiring, your team is in ****ty shape. But we already knew that, you included.

 

[Koma]

I agree but no one is calling him out on it. His fellow "Knights of the Keyboard" are congratulating him on finding such an example.

Breer continues to chime in with "NE runs pick plays too!" :bricks:

Breer is such a troll.

No one has claimed the Patriots don't run pick plays. Every team runs those. A reporter who claims to cover the whole league should know that. But, because a break went against the Patriots, he goes out of his way to minimize it.

 

[Joker]

Just wait until your HOF QB retires and you have to deal with a **** heap at QB for 10 years because the rest of your team isn't bad enough to finish high enough to get you a new QB. The patriots haven't always been good, and the bills haven't always been bad, and it won't always be like this

 

[SVN]

some view pts

Tim Graham ‏@ByTimGraham 33m
Jim Leonhard says Wes Welker went on 'a suicide mission' to eliminate Aqib Talib Jim Leonhard says Wes Welker went on 'a suicide mission' to detonate Aqib Talib - Bills Blitz …

Donte' Stallworth ‏@DonteStallworth 53m
I have nothing but love and respect for Bill Belichick, but he's absolutely wrong about Wes Welker's hit on Aqib Talib... and he knows it.

Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss 15m
Re-watching the Talib/Welker play, defense seemed to know it was coming. Can hear defender say "Watch the pick!" on CBS audio prior to snap.

Follow-up thoughts on Bill Belichick's claim - ESPN Boston

 

[PrairiePat]

So, pick plays. We run them, everyone else runs them. They seem like cheating to me. How does the league crack down on them? Can anything more be done than the rules that are already in place? Most of these plays already skate the line between legal and illegal - are there any other rules or guidelines that would make offensive coordinators think twice before designing these types of routes? Or would that just be adding more judgement calls that we hate to the ones we already have?

 

[AQPE]

Just wait until your HOF QB retires and you have to deal with a **** heap at QB for 10 years because the rest of your team isn't bad enough to finish high enough to get you a new QB. The patriots haven't always been good, and the bills haven't always been bad, and it won't always be like this

Buffalo's failures start with the doddering old fool at the top of that organization. He chased away Polian and Butler who were the true architects of the "almost championship" era up there. That's the real reason the Bills have been crap since the early 90's. We don't have that issue here, and its because it starts with astute ownership.

 

[Rusty Coupe]

'the receiver' is going to spend the next 2 weeks of SB hype having to explain himself for this play, enjoy.

 

[AzorianPats]

some view pts

Tim Graham ‏@ByTimGraham 33m
Jim Leonhard says Wes Welker went on 'a suicide mission' to eliminate Aqib Talib Jim Leonhard says Wes Welker went on 'a suicide mission' to detonate Aqib Talib - Bills Blitz …

Donte' Stallworth ‏@DonteStallworth 53m
I have nothing but love and respect for Bill Belichick, but he's absolutely wrong about Wes Welker's hit on Aqib Talib... and he knows it.

Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss 15m
Re-watching the Talib/Welker play, defense seemed to know it was coming. Can hear defender say "Watch the pick!" on CBS audio prior to snap.

Follow-up thoughts on Bill Belichick's claim - ESPN Boston

Not for nothing, but Stallworth and Welker are good friends off the field.