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    When we look back on this draft in a few years it will probably be looked at as the point in history that marked the beginning of the end of the Patriots run of excellence. Yes it might take a few years, but THIS was the point where it started to go down hill.

    There is NOTHING I can think of that explains what happened tonight. Forget about all the missed opportunities we had in the first round. We DID end up with a good player, even if it wasn't at the position of our perceived need. But how can you explain the following.

    1. Ras I Dowling at #33 OK you can rationalize the picking ANOTHER CB - He's big, he's versatile, he's got great straight line speed. However he has a LONG history of injuries, a lack of quickness, and reportedly is just an average tackler. Still I could have lived with the pick.

    What I can't live with is the squandering of the draft position. I find it impossible to believe that we couldn't find a trade partner willing to take the spot. Bill admitted that the Pats had gotten offered on Thursday for the pick. Yet somehow BB felt it was THAT urgent to pick a guy in a position of great depth with a pick that had premium value as trade bait....for a guy many thought was a 3rd round pick.

    But then it gets worse.....

    Vereen was one of the RB's I'd come like...but in the 3rd or 4th round, NOT as the 2nd RB to come off the board. He's a nice addition, but he's not a guy that will move the chains with tough 3rd and short runs. That was Daniel Thomas, or Mike Leshure. But OK, BB has surprised us with guys who we thought were picked too early, but turned out great like Volmer. At this point I'm not happy, but I'm still accepting.

    But then it gets worse....

    We pick up ANOTHER RB - Its as if BB is admitting I spent a premium pick on a guy who I know is 3rd down player, so I have go get ANOTHER RB who CAN pick up those "move the chains" tough runs

    But then it gets worse.....much worse.

    So instead of picking up someone who can help our Defensive front 7, or compete for the open spot at G, or be the guy who can stretch a defense; he picks up a VERY questionable character guy who in his best usage will be to be traded in 3 or 4 years for a high draft pick. While, if I were Ryan Mallet, I'd be THRILLED to be going to a team where I can spend the next 3 years maturing as a person, and learning the game from the best, it does NOTHING to make this a better team for the foreseeable future....NOTHING GREAT pick for Ryan Mallet, HORRIBLE pick for the Pats

    BTW - the more I think about Mallet the LESS I understand it. If you want to think of a QB who most resembles him in style and physical skills, isn't it Drew Bledsoe. He's not the guy who will step back and throw bubble screens. He's not mobile in the pocket. He's not athletic. He's a tall guy with a big arm who throws the ball down the field. In other words he's DREW.....at best. Didn't we already decide that is NOT the kind of QB we like.

    And haven't we tried this experiment before with the kid who was the MVP in Europe, and Kevin O'Connor......and haven't they BOTH failed. The more I think about it the LESS I can understand or justify it.

    I don't even care who the damned 3rd pick in the round is. It will probably end up being the best FG holder available. Doesn't matter. All I know is that THIS great and rare opportunity to add significant IMPACT players to an already very good team has been lost.

    NO impact at OLB

    NO impact at on the DL

    NO impact at WR

    NO ONE to replace Steven Neal at G

    But we do now have the most physically talented #3 QB in the NFL :rolleyes:

    The Pass rush isn't any better

    The TEAM its self isn't any better. 6 picks in the first 100 and the team isn't materially better than the one that started the damned draft.

    All we got is a LT for the future, and more depth at RB and the DB. BUT NO ONE who makes the team better for next year.

    Just one potential starter and he probably would benefit if he didn't have to start. He may have all pro potential, but NEXT YEAR, he isn't going to be better than the All pro he replaces......And as for the rest....totally unexplainable.

    Bill might recover some in FA. Maybe that was the plan all along to address the rush. But it STILL wouldn't explain the squandering to so many picks at so premium a position. WHAT A WASTE. :mad:

    A draft that was SQUANDERED.....perhaps the beginning of the end?
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    Look at the Pats' roster at DB, though:

    Leigh Bodden [2013]
    James Sanders [2011]
    Brandon Meriweather [2011]
    Jarrod Page [2011]
    Jonathan Wilhite [2011]
    Darius Butler [2012]
    Patrick Chung [2012]
    Josh Barrett [2012]
    Kyle Arrington [2011]
    Sergio Brown [2013]

    For better or worse, the Pats liked Dowling enough that they felt taking him at 33 was better than whatever they could have gotten from a trade.
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    PFK is one of this site's most unabashed homers. If his posting is too negative for you, you must be married to Belichick. So, if he's not happy with the draft, it's not about Chicken Little.
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    Wtf is this bull****? You're talking like the team went 2-14 last year. Come on.
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    Did we get a trophy for that 14-2 season? I don't recall BB adressing the needs that lead us to another playoff failure.
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    He's not a homer, hes a reactionary drama queen.


    The fact that Bellichick has different opinions on players than you do most likely means that you're wrong, not that he is.


    Some of these guys will be busts, and some will be good. But the idea that you KNOW this draft has been terrible is absolutely ******* absurd.
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    I seem to remember us losing to the Jets because we couldn't score points, partially because they shut down our running game, and sacked Brady 5 times.


    BB has picked 2 RBs and an OT so far. Sounds like hes addressed it.
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    I actually liked the first 3 picks just fine, and I get why they'd take Mallet.

    But Ridley (after Vereen) plus punting on the rest of the draft's middle I don't like at all. An interior lineman like Boling or Moffitt or Fusco, maybe? A flyer on Romeus? Throw us a bone, please?
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    Evaluating a draft class before the draft is finished and without one snap played is dangerous business.

    I'm a little dumbfounded by the Ridley & Mallett picks but there's still free agency to be played out.
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    Stupid mistakes led to a lack of points, giving Sanchez an hour to throw caused them to go up and down on us.
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    Mallet makes absolutely no sense at all.
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    Clearly BB tought Ridley was better for the Patriots than these guys. We'll see whether he was right.
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    No ****. Thats what I said.



    Mallet absolutely makes sense Deus. He's one of the better QBs in the draft, he fell pretty far, and we have a QB who will turn 35 this year. Its time to start thinking about it.
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    Shadows of Borges.

    It's the draft. Jeezus, haven't you people learned at all that you have NO IDEA what will come of draft day? And people are proclaiming this the end of an era?

    ******* shameful.
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    And I was agreeing with your general point that the draft is one part of building a team. UDFA is another and free agency is still to come.

    I think we can ***** and moan once we see the final composition of the team at that point.
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    No, Mallet doesn't make sense, Synovia. He's not getting more than a 4 year deal. I'm pretty sure Brady just signed an extension for 4 years. The team didn't need a developmental QB in the top 3 rounds. It could sure as hell have used help at other positions, though.
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    PFK,

    You are leaving out the one and two that we added to next years draft which if this is the begining of the end 4 of 64 next year could go a long way to reversing that.

    You like Solder as do I and protecting Brady is as important as anything.

    I think you still need to prepare for the unthinkable and a guy like Mallet should be as good a back up as most in the league have. Hopefully he matures and developes and he can net you something in the future.

    I really like Vareen seems like a perfect Patriot and then Riddley seems to compliment him nicely not to mention they each seem to be good backups to BJGE and Woodhead and I think you have alot of young talent at a position that was aging fast a year or two ago.

    Dowling comes with injury concern and may have been a reach but I think he adds real nice to the DB rotation and one thing I think he should do that will be Key is hopefully take some of McCourty's ST reps as McCourty is to good to play as much ST as he does.

    I think if you want to key on not helping the front seven than the draft looks bad but if you step back and look at what you get and how it should fit on the team (all should fill a spot without moving much off the roster) it was a pretty good couple of days and you added a one and two to next years draft. IMO classic BB draft so far and to not give the man his credit is wrong and I usually like what you have to say.

    Thanks
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