I'm sure glad science doesn't make such simplistic assertions.
A lot of science is based on the simple answer is the correct one.
Are you seriously telling me that if an overweight person consults a doctor about their weight, the first advice won't be to reduce eating and increase exercise?
Your statements are so full of
erroneous assumptions that I do not want to respond with correction.
The saving face way to admit you are wrong I suppose.
You just seem to make
up stuff that fits your viewpoint of the world. I believe you have no concept of how hard it
is for obese people to lose weight.
I have a very good understanding of that. The problem you have is that instead of empowering them to make life changes, your approach tells them its ok to be overweight because its not their fault, and does them no good, unless they are one of the stark minority who actually eat and exercise properly and have a medical condition.
Your simplistic point of view is so unfair to many of these
people. Many of them suffer mental anguish because of people like you who do not understand
but cast degrading remarks on their inability to stay on a diet , have no will power and are all
just willful over eaters satisfying their pleasure centers. They know how you feel when you
come face to face and you don't even have to say a word.
Clearly you feel that overweight people are lesser people than you and that they have something to be ashamed of. That is too bad. I guarantee you there has never been a person in the world who suffered mental anguish over my understanding of why people are overweight.
Frankly many overweight people are overweight by choice. Of course they wish they were not overweight but the prospect of limiting what they eat or exercising is less attractive than being overweight. I weigh more than I wish I did myself. But I am comfortable with my lifestyle and diet and exercise choices resulting in the body I have more than I would be making additional sacrifices to weigh less. Every person is somewhere along that scale. It is wrong of you to act as if an overweight person is broken, or that they should be ashamed when someone points out they choose to eat more than they should. Hopefully you can come to stop looking down on overweight people to the point you think it is horrific to think they choose to be that way.
The only example I gave of someone who fits the"burn more calories than they consume and gain weight"
scenario was the Kate example which is documented.
What I did say was millions try to lose weight on diets and many reach a plateau. (not gain or lose weight)
This has been your whole argument. You have said 'millions and millions of people' follow proper diet and exercise regimens and can't lose weight. That is simply inarguable wrong.
No that is not what I meant. Increasing Metabolism is NOT the answer. Getting metabolism to function
normally is!
I know its not what you meant, I corrected it for you.
When this happens many obese people who have tried to maintain a healthy diet and exercise and failed
will be able to try again and this time succeed.
Not if they don't stick to the regimen, or go back to their old ways, which is why they are where they are.
I agree there are a miniscule percentage of people who have medical issues that prevent them from losing weight. I have all along. You are taking this vast minority and trying to claim it is a majority, which is where you are off the rails.
Andy, I am not going to respond to any more of your posts on this topic. It's just a waste of my time.
Thats a better approach than having read a book, misunderstanding it, and posting stuff that is ridiculous, so I concur.
Continue to make your simplistic false assertions without any deep understanding of all the factors involved
if you wish.
I have just tried to share new science about obesity with people on this forum and have given references
to that new science. I hope if someone here has a weight problem, it will encourage them to read more
about it and maybe lead to real help with this difficult problem.
And I would hope that the few people who have these medical conditions get treatment, and the majority of overweight people are not enabled by this excuse that you want to give them, and proceed to lifestyle changes that will help them, if they wish.