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    Here's the latest 53-man forecast...

    QB - Brady, Hoyer, Mallett
    RB - Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, (Larsen/Fiametta)
    WR - Welker, Lloyd, Branch, (Ochocinco/Stallworth/Gonzalez), Edelman, Slater
    TE - Gronkowski, Hernandez, Fell
    OT - Light, Solder, Vollmer, Cannon
    OG - Mankins, Waters, Gallery
    OC - Connolly, Wendell

    DL - Wilfork, Deaderick, Love, Fanene, Brace, Pryor
    OLB - Ninkovich, Scott, Carpenter, Cunningham
    ILB - Mayo, Spikes, Fletcher, White, Koutouvides
    CB - McCourty, Allen, Arrington, Dowling, Moore, Cole
    S - Chung, Gregory, Brown, Barrett

    P - Mesko
    K - Gostkowski
    LS - Aiken

    Some uncertainty on the OL. This assumes neither Light nor Waters decides to retire. Also, there are rumors Koppen might still be back. Depending on how those decisions play out, we may want to spend a draft pick on a tall 300#er with good feet and long arms.

    To my own surprise, I actually believe that outside pass rush is not our top need. I rank it third after DL and DB. We have Nink, Scott, Carpenter, Cunningham and the chance of getting Carter back. Not an earth shattering crew, but there is youth and upside. It's enough to field a team. Better than our Tully Banta Cain years.

    More urgent, BB needs to find a way to replace and upgrade Shawn Ellis and Gerard Warren. Brace has not stepped forward, Pryor feels like a roster placeholder. Deaderick should be deeper on the depth chart than our de facto starter.

    The secondary is clearly missing an anchor, our own Ed Reed or a new Ty Law, someone who'll come up with the big play when we need it and share the leadership load with Chung. If McCourty re-asserts himself, that would be a huge step. But even so, one more playmaker would set this defense on a different plane.
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    A fine assessment!

    DE is our greatest 2012 need. As you say, Deaderick shouldn't be the automatic starter. There is very little quality at DE in your projected 53.

    OL is clearly a 2013 need (isn't that what the draft is for?). We don't know about 2012, but we certainly expect to need replacements next year for Light, Waters and Gallery.

    And yes, we still need a top corner. We could use a safety, but the first 2 will be long gone, and Belichick will likely move on the corners over, even if we draft a safety in the late 3rd or later.
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    Nice job with that.

    So from this group who is most likely to be replaced by a player not on the team right now, whether it be a draftee, returning free agent, new veteran FA or undrafted free agent?

    The first positions/players that jump out to me are all on defense:
    • - DL (Brace, Pryor)
    • - S (Brown, Barrett)
    • - OLB (Carpenter, Cunningham)

    Obviously there will be others as well but those seem to be among the most likely candidates to not be on the week one roster.
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    Nice effort. Here's a few changes I'd make in CAPITALS


    QB - Brady, Hoyer, Mallett
    RB - Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, 1 of (Larsen/Fiametta) VET FA
    WR - Welker, Lloyd, Edelman 2 of Branch, Ochocinco, Stallworth/Gonzalez)
    TE - Gronkowski, Hernandez, Fell
    OT - Solder, Vollmer, Cannon, FOURTH OT, either FA or draft pick
    OG - Mankins, Waters, Gallery.
    OC - Connolly,MCDONALD

    DL - Wilfork, Fanene Pryor, 2 of Brace/Deadrick/Love , ROOKIE DRAFT PICK
    OLB - Ninkovich, CARTER 2 of Scott, Carpenter, Cunningham, ROOKIE DRAFT PICK
    ILB - Mayo, Spikes, Fletcher, 1 of White/Kouitavitis
    CB - McCourty, Arrington, Dowling, 2 of Allen, Moore,Cole
    S - Chung, Gregory Barrett ROOKIE DRAFT PICK

    P - Mesko
    K - Gostkowski
    LS - Aiken
    ST - Slater

    Explanations:

    1. I have the feeling they REALLY like McDonald, which makes Wendall expendable
    2. Cannon can back up both G and T
    3 We keep only 5 WRs. 2 of the 4 vets in bold are out. You can make that 3 if we draft a WR in the first 3 rounds
    4. I'm sure that Carter will be re-sign. He also adds depth to the DL as a 4-3 DE
    5. We are NOT keeping more than one ST's ace/coverage ILB
    6. If we keep more than 9 DB's we will leave ourselves thin at either OL or DL
    7. We might keep both FB's and just go with the 3 RBs we have

    Observations -

    1. The first thing that popped out at me is that roster spots are going to be at a real premium this season. As it is, in my projection, we only add 3 rookies....and you know that that "ain't happening" I would be shocked to see less than 5 make this team....if we use all the picks

    2. For that reason I can't see us moving down to add picks in lower rounds. Normally BB would do something to get a day 3 pick or two to balance the draft, but THIS year, any more picks than 4 or 5 will just end up being camp fodder like back in 2007

    3. For that reason, I can easily see THIS being the year of the "trade up" or the "trade out" into next season. It makes no sense to have more draft picks that we have right now because as it is, its only likely that 3 or 4 will make the roster

    4. ....and for THOSE reasons there will be several veteran players who WILL NOT make this roster. Some damned good players are going to be let go before the end of TC. The Sharks WILL be circling.

    5. If I'm forced to name the 3 draft picks I'd put down Baron S, McClellin and Reyes/Thompson
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    Astute of you on the Draft numbers. A waste to pick up many more. Seems like he did that shopping in FA this year.

    Why is everybody so sure Branch is a lock? He is spiraling downwards. He no longer requires double coverage. In fact the oppositions lesser CB can cover him just fine. I say he doesn't make the Team. It makes no sense. He can't get open. At the end of the season Ocho was open more than he was. TB throws to the open man is a myth. TB will not throw to Ocho so I say he goes to. A roster space waste for perhaps a younger WR or I am sure the others can be capable backups they want Branch to be.
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    I have this as our 53 going into the draft:

    QB (3): Hoyer, Brady, Mallett
    RB (4): Ridley, Vereen, Woodhead, Fiammetta
    WR (6): Edelman, Gonzalez, Slater, Welker, Branch, Lloyd
    TE (3): Hernandez, Fells, Gronkowski
    OL (9): Waters, Cannon, Wendell, Connolly, Gallery, Mankins, Light, Vollmer, Solder
    DL (6): Fanene, Deaderick, Love, Wilfork, Pryor, Brace
    DL/LB (4): Carter, Ninkovich, Scott, Cunningham
    LB (5): Mayo, Fletcher, Tarpinian, Spikes, White
    CB (6): Dowling, Arrington, Allen, Moore, McCourty, Cole
    S (4): Chung, Gregory, Barrett, Brown

    Italics means could be upgraded as a starter but worthy of a roster spot either way; bold means should probably not be on the roster at all.
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    Because Brady loves him, he knows the system, can teach the system, and can make the catch when we need it. He's no worse now than what we had with David Patten in 2001. He's a great fifth option in a 5-wide with Welker, Lloyd, Gronk and Hernandez.
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    rook's post was using the current roster.

    I see few disagreements in your post.

    OFFENSE
    1) I agree that a vet RB could win a roster spot, as a substitution or addition. I believe that you get this roster spot by reducing the DB's to 9.

    2) I agree that Branch is in competition with the rest, although I agree with rook that he is a heavy favorite for a roster spot.

    3) I agree that Light could retire to be replaced by a 4th OT.

    4) While I agree that McDonald should be considered. I disagree with both you and rook. I would not choose between Wendell and McDonald at this point.

    DEFENSE
    I read your post several times. I must have missed something. I believe that both you and rook have 6 DL's and 9 LB's. You have 9 DB's instead of 10.

    I believe that White makes the squad as the 4th ILB, and yes, the 4th ILB should be a ST specialist. I agree with rook that Koutovides has the 9th LB position at the moment. I think that it is unlikely that he will win the position. I don't think it matters whether the 9th OLB is labelled an ILB or OLB.

    I agree that we should have 5 position OLB's if we can them. As of now, we Ninkovich and Scott. I am far, far from awarding a likely roster spot to the unsigned/injured Carter, Carpenter or Cunningham. I agree with Carpenter and Cunningham at present, with the need to upgrade. I would give Koutovides the 5th OLB (the 9th LB) roster spot.
    I would cut the 10th db to clear a roster spot for Carter if we sign him.

    BOTTOM LINE
    The confusion comes when you sign Carter as an OLB. We need 9 OB's and 6 DB's in addition to Carter, who I would label as a DE or DE/OLB, our 16th front seven position. I am fine with THIS use of a roster spot instead of a 10th DB. However, we do need 25 roster positions on defense, including specialists like White or Koutouvides.


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    Patten went 51/749 in 2001 at 27 years old. He 2002 he was 61/824. 2003 he was hurt. 2004 44/800. That's a lot better than a 5th option or what Branch is right now. I agree with your premise just not you opinion on Patten.
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    Disagree with putting Pryor ahead of Love and Deaderick on the depth chart. I see no scenarios where Deaderick and Love fail to make the roster, even if BB drafts 2 DTs early. They're young, cheap and reliable. Not a high ceiling, but BB loves a known quantity.

    Not so sure. First, Carter may not recover in time for the season. And then, you assume we will draft a rookie at OLB, which is much more a matter of fans' wishful thinking than anything BB has indicated he would do. The players coming in for visits are mostly DBs and a very few late round LBs.

    White is a lock as a ST and rotational option at LB. Koutouvites is replaceable, but it has to be someone who can play STs. I like Bobby Wagner as a nominee. This spot may not be ILB, e.g. if BB spends a pick at OLB or TE, Koutouvites may lose the spot to that player. Note, I did not list Tarpinian who I think BB has big plans for. Too soon to know.

    I agree with all of what you've said except #5. We've been talking for a while that drafting more than 4-5 players only works if some of them are going straight to IR... someone like Ryan Broyles, for example.

    I'm starting to be a bit dismayed at how over-drafted Barron has become in the last two weeks. If he goes as a top-15 pick, that's beyond my appetite for trading up. McClellin looks like a good fit for the scheme, but honestly don't think he'll be a significant upgrade over what we've signed in free agency. Reyes looks average to me. I far prefer Still and Thompson, and would consider taking them both to inject serious youth into our defensive front.
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    He also loved Patten, Givens, Brown and Moss, but when the time came for them to move on, Brady got over it real quick.
    So do all the other receivers except for Gonsales. Big deal
    The Pats pay good money to coaches who can "teach the system" Besides, like I said, most everyone on the roster already "knows the system"
    .Like in the last drive of the superbowl? :rolleyes: Yes I know that's not fair, but in the last half of the season, with the exception of a single game, Branch disappeared.
    That's just BS
    Better than Stallworth, Ocho, or a healthy Gonsales? I don't think so. You have a player whose skills are deteriorating, Any starting CB can take him out of the game by playing him physically We rarely see the soft zone coverage that he used to thrive in. He only plays one WR position, and no special teams. Now tell me again why you think he's a lock
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    Offensive side of the ball is pretty straight forward. All starters are in place. Depending on personal opinion, we could use a WR or OL or both but only as a backup for the 2012 season. Wendell / McDonald will be a camp battle, perhaps both make it. WR spots will be a camp battle as well. Light and Waters retirements could hurt us but we all want to see them back.

    Defensively things are much, much muddier.

    I think these guys making the roster

    DL - Wilfork, Deaderick, Love, Fanene - 4
    OLB - Ninkovich, Scott - 2
    ILB - Mayo, Spikes, Fletcher - 3
    CB - McCourty, Arrington, Dowling, Moore - 4
    S - Chung, Gregory - 2
    total - 15
    note: I have White making roster but I don't count him as a LB

    Then you have this group.

    DL - Brace, Pryor, Cunningham, Harrison - 4
    LB - Carpenter, Koutouvides - 2
    CB - Allen, Cole, - 2
    S - Brown, Barrett - 2

    None are anything special and any could be beat out by draft picks. My draft strategy would be to take the best defensive players. Just get 6 guys to replace 6 of the above. Also need at least 1 interior DL, 1 43DE / 34OLB and 1 S. Other 3 should just be BDPA.
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    I think that Carter starts the season on the PUP list, possibly Gonzalez too.
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    OFFENSE
    As you indicated, Belichick might choose to draft a WR or OL. Certainly, they would needed for 2013. Drafts are usually focused on the future.

    DEFENSE - YOUR CORE
    I agree with your core 16. As others have noted in the past, this group is ready to play. The only NEED is an additional DE. I look for a free agent (Carter?) or a very early draft choice to start.

    DEFENSE - THE CONTENDERS
    I would note that Cunningham is a LB. Harrison has almost zero chance to make the roster. Also, Pryor is an almost lock if he is healthy. LB Carter (drafted last year) should be added as a contender.

    Belichick might be quite satisfied with Allen, Cole (or top gunner) and Barrett.

    YOUR STATEMENT OF DRAFT NEED - FIRST 3

    I agree with your top three needs.

    Congrats for focusing on the need for 2 DL's: a DT and DE/OLB. While I agree on the need for a safety, we might very well draft a corner, planning to move on of the corners to safety (and perhaps even to add a free agent safety)

    HOW TO DRAFT AFTER THE FIRST THREE
    You indicate that we should draft the BDPA. I suggest the Belichick will draft the BPA or even the BVA (best value including trading into 2013). I certainly wouldn't complain if we drafted an OL in addition to the 3 needs mentioned above. I also wouldn't mind an ILB like Hightower.

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    Some comments.

    • Good point of departure.
    • I assume you mean M. Carter.
    • A. Carter is the first obvious upgrade to M. Carter, but perhaps not at the time of the Opening Day roster crunch.
    • Different people would pick a different 2 of Gonzalez/Branch/Ocho/Stallworth.
    • S. Brown shouldn't be on the roster at all.
    • Pryor should.
    • The McDonald/Wendell point above is a good one.
    • Since Bedard thinks Light actually will retire, Light is at least a risk to retire.
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    Supposedly the Pats really like both Wendell and McDonald. I think both stick, probably as the #2 and #3 centers and #4 and #5 guards.
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    If they draft, or sign, any additional corners or they may already have one - Arrington will be gone.
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    Why the heck would the Pats get rid of Arrington?

    In 2009, he led the team in ST tackles despite only playing 8 games, and then gave the Pats a slight glimmer of hope when he recovered a muffed punt against the Ravens in the playoffs, and helped them finally get some points on the board.

    In 2010, he came out of nowhere to start most of the season when playing Butler proved futile. He still managed to be 3rd on the team in ST tackles, picked the best regular season game to have a ridiculous pick-6, and is the guy who ran in the blocked FG for a TD against the Dolphins.

    In 2011, he led the NFL in interceptions, was 3rd on the team in ST tackles, started 14 games after both Dowling and Bodden got hurt, and ended the season by helping completely shut down Cruz in the Super Bowl.

    If Arrington isn't one of the primary corners this season, then he's going to team up with Slater to form the best gunner duo in the NFL. And if they do ever need him on defense, then we know he can be decent there too. He may not have a huge role on defense, but he wasn't supposed to in 2010 or 2011 either, and his ST contributions make him worth keeping around until he's needed on defense.
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    I think we will go 4 safeties 5 corners. Having only 4 corners puts us at risk of using Edelman as a corner in case of injury, but who knows? Maybe Edelman will be the 5th corner as a utility player.
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    ???????

    We carry 9-10 defensive backs. Arrington is certainly worthy to be the 9th DB. Of course, the reality is that he may start at CB or nickel (really a starting position).

    Presuming TWO draftees in the first 3 rounds, and not counting Arrington, these are the only locks

    CB: McCourty, Dowling, Moore, draftee
    S: Chung, Gregory, draftee

    BOTTOM LINE
    There would be 2-3 open roster spots, with special teamers getting preference. Arrington would then be the #8 DB. He is a top special teamer. Also, I would note that it reasonably likely that Belichick will not have a rookie start or even get major reps. In that case, one of the corners would get reps at safety.





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    That is lot of roster spots for interior linemen.

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    With regard to the defensive line, Myron Pryor and Ron Brace both should be upgraded. A seventh defensive lineman may be warranted, especially considering the defensive line injuries that occurred during the 2010 NFL Season for the New England Patriots defense.

    Andre Carter has yet to be re-signed and may be a potential candidate for the PUP list, if not retirement returning from torn left quadriceps. The New England Patriots should upgrade the 3-4 outside linebacker position in the 2012 NFL Draft, at worst provide competition during training camp.

    Will Allen should be upgraded at the cornerback position. The New England Patriots defense should not rely upon a 33 year old defensive back for depth.

    Josh Barrett and Sergio Brown both should be upgraded at the safety position, since neither are starting safeties in the NFL.
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    Do you believe that we need more than five corners and four safeties? IMHO, we need to draft at least one defensive back. My preference would be a corner early and a safety late.

    CORNERS
    McCourty, Dowling, Arrington, Moore, Allen/Cole

    SAFETY
    Chung, Gregory, Barrett, ???

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    I personally would not select a cornerback until the bottom of the second round, considering the depth of the position in the 2012 NFL Draft. Furthermore, I personally would not select a safety until the bottom of the third round.

    Will Allen, at the age of 33, does not upgrade the New England Patriots defensive secondary. Marquice Cole competes for a roster spot not only at cornerback but also special teams.

    As for Josh Barrett, what has he done in his career to warrant a roster spot for the New England Patriots defense?

    The New England Patriots defensive front seven require upgrades and should be prioritized in 2012 NFL Draft.
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    I'm not sure how one can square DE as "our biggest need" and "we could use a safety". Our DL looked more than serviceable last year, particularly when used in 3-4 looks. Our safety play on the other hand was atrocious. Yes both positions need upgrades but I don't see how one deserves a high round upgrade and the other becomes a late round afterthought.
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    You seem to believe that you can find two 2012 contributors at safety from the bottom of third round onward. Perhaps I have misunderstood you. Certainly, none of the analysts believes that any one team will likely secure 2 safeties that contribute in 2012.

    In any case, you want to draft a corner in the late 2nd and a safety in the late 3rd or later. I'm fine with that strategy. While I would consider a corner earlier, the result is likely to be the same. I agree that there is depth at corner in this draft. There also may be value available at the end of the 1st or at the beginning of the 2nd round.
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    WE SEEM TO AGREE ON NINE SECONDARY ROSTER SPOTS

    CORNERS
    McCourty, Dowling, Arlington, Moore, draftee, Cole

    SAFETIES
    Chung, Gregory, draftee

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    TENTH ROSTER SPOT

    Since there will be 2 developmental rookies in teh secondary, it seems reasonable to carry 10 defensive backs total.

    Belichick has chosen two players to compete for this roster spot.

    Belichick thought so much of BARRETT that he paid him a year to be on the IR in 2010. He also expected to develop him into a starter in 2011. How much did he believe this? He fired both Sanders AND Meriweather. Barrett did not have much time to develop when he was injured in 2011. I would note that he was a starter at the time. So, I do not think it difficult to believe that Belichick will give Barrett a chance as our #4 safety.

    Belichick signed Allen provides emergency depth. As you know, Belichick PREFERS older players for this role. if everyone else is healthy by the time the season, starts, Allen will likely not make the team. However, it seems to be a good idea to have emergency depth. I understand that you disagree.

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    So a former seventh round selection from the 2008 NFL Draft can contribute to the New England Patriots defense yet a draft selection from 2012 NFL Draft is unable to? Who says a Markelle Martin or Brandon Taylor, for instance, can't contribute to the New England Patriots defense in 2012? Who says the New England Patriots can't double dip in the third and fourth rounds of the 2012 NFL Draft for safeties?

    Meanwhile the New England Patriots pass defense was worse in 2011 than 2010. As for Barrett, it's a simple case of cover your arse in case of injury during training camp.
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    We're projecting a 53-man roster, not protecting against injuries in training camp. If there aren't enough safeties for camp, we should draft extra players and bring in free agents as injury protection. That doesn't mean that these players will make the 53 man roster. I wouldn't be surprised if no players make the roster who are drafted after the end of the 3rd round. (In this scenario, our 4th would have been traded into 2013 or used to move earlier in the draft).

    My position is that the 53 will include two starters from 2011 (Chung and Barrett), a free agent (Gregory) and a draftee. No, I do not think that it covering one's arse to enter the season with two late round rookies, rated as long shots by one and all.
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    So, for me, it is NOT an either or for the final roster. I expect us to have Barrett and a draftee as backups to Chung and Gregory.
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    COVERING ONE'S ARSE
    Here I STRONGLY agree with you. Belichick failed miserably by not doing this last year when he dumped both Meriweather and Sanders. Surely, they were worth a roster spot as the 9th defensive backs. This was especially true for Sanders who was a top STer.

    I have no problem with double dipping with a second draftee at safety. HOWEVER, I don't think that this is realistic given how few good prospects there are and how many teams want safeties. Perhaps you believe that we will get Barron or Smith. In that case, I would be more likely that we would double dip. I just don't think that we will get one of the early safeties. If we double dip with 2 safeties from the end of the 3rd through the end of the draft, I would expect only one to make the 53 man squad.

    I would HOPE that Belichick would take out insurance and keep BARRETT in addition to the draftee on the 53. If the 2nd draftee is good enough to make the roster, we can afford to keep a 5th safety. We've certainly done this before. I would also expect Belichick to bring in another safety (or 2 or 3) for camp.

    BOTTOM LINE
    Yes, I believe it is more likely that BARRETT makes the roster than a second rookie safety. If we draft Barron or Smith, it is more possible that two safeties make it. Even then, I would keep BARRETT as the 5th safety.

    And yes, BARRETT does have considerable advantage, especially early in the season. It seems unlikely that lightning will strike twice. I know it has in the past, but this is a VERY weak set of safety prospects. The situation was MUCH different when we drafted two tight ends. There were lots of quality tight ends in that draft.

    A FINAL NOTE
    It should matter (in predicting a roster) that Belichick sees something in BARRETT as a young prospect.


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  29. patchick

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    I'm surprised that there's such unanimity in projecting BOTH Dowling and McCourty to corner, despite the strong CB class and the weakness of the safety position in both the roster and the draft class.
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    I agree, Patchick, in that this year's CB class is VERY strong. We could easily take a top-flight guy with 31, such as Josh Robinson with his rawness but obscene speed or a Jamell Flemings with his penchant for gambling, but his versatility, size, and speed.

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    We need to upgrade the interior of both lines. It becomes even more pressing if Brian Waters hangs it up. And please rotate Vince more. Playing nearly 90 percent of defensive snaps must be wearing down his body.

    But getting a DE/OLB has got to priority number one. Something like Branch out of Clemson or even Bruce Irvin (probably an early second, otherwise) out of West Virginia.

    BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet» Blog Archive » The Patriots are linked to a couple prospects with character questions

    Just say no to Janoris Jerkson.
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