BobDigital
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Before this year if i had to make a list it go in order probably Brady Rodgers Ben Brees Newton (he had a great year but not established enough to go higher), E manning, Rivers, Wilson, Luck (injured in 2015 but still up there), Safford.
Now we have had time to see some young QBs a bit longer and see if people really bounce back or can be consistent. Last year was such an odd year for a number of reasons. So as things stand now...
#1 Brady - Simply the best! Better than all the rest. It is insane a 39 year old QB is still the best in the NFL. However clearly he has not lost anything.
#2 Rodgers - For a while I was considering dropping him but he has come on strong again and showed he is still the 2nd best. He has question marks but almost every QB does. His play this year and consistency in past years keep him rightfully here.
#3 Brees - This guy and Ben are very different players and at this point I have to say I have seen enough to say the following. Ben seems to get hurt too often but Brees doesn't. Games played is one of the most underrated stats in the NFL. I give Brees the edge due to it. Also can we get this guy a defense or anything close to it.
#4 Ben - Like him or hate him Ben Roethlisberger has been one of the best QBs for years. When 100% healthy he is arguably better than anyone not named Brady.
#5 Eli Manning - The first change on this list. Not only will Newton not be on but entirely dropped. Last year seemed to be a lightning in the bottle year and now is back with being a good but not great QB just out of the top 10. Eli has had some good statistical years and average ones lately. This year with the worst running game in the NFL and an often pissed off diva WR he has suffered a bit offensively. But every team in the NFL would be a lot happier without the Giants in the playoffs. They have good reason to be. Eli somehow or another just seems to have things work out for him in the playoffs and it is not all luck.
#6 Wilson - He has been pretty good his whole career but i have not seen him struggle like this for a while. However he seems to be healthy and turning it on again. I will give him the benefit of a doubt he has earned.
#7 Carr - The new addition to the list. No longer a 2nd year wonder. Carr can not be ignored. He clearly has what it takes to be elite. However if he wants to climb higher he must do what everyone else her has done and win a playoff game and soon a championship. This will not be his year though.
#8 Luck - Luck has shown more but shows to be inconsistent too often. This year has been up and down for him. He puts up a ton of numbers but has arguably one of the worst supporting cast 52 in the NFL. I want to see what he can do with a better team. I think it is a little of both. Some of it is him trying to do things he shouldn't and some is everyone else around him letting him down.
#9 Rivers - I have never seen a QB suffer more from STs than Rivers. However to say Rivers is not at all to blame for his failings would be highly incorrect. This year though he has the bad luck of being stuck in a very tough division but can never seem to break though to elite status and carry his team to a championship. I have seen him fail too many times when he had realistic chances not to. A QB heading towards the "Hall of Very Good" but never will he sniff the HOF.
#10 Stafford/Ryan - I put Stafford first for a reason. Right now he is barely ahead of Ryan. Seeing what he has done last year and this year without a WR like Julio Jones is very impressive. It feels like being without Calvin Johjson has allowed him to grow into a better player on the whole. Ryan on the other hand is having a great season but has too often had not great seasons for no reason really. This year he has done very well even when passing to guys not named Julio Jones. This I want to see play out more as the year goes on as Ryan has to face some harder defenses.
Now we have had time to see some young QBs a bit longer and see if people really bounce back or can be consistent. Last year was such an odd year for a number of reasons. So as things stand now...
#1 Brady - Simply the best! Better than all the rest. It is insane a 39 year old QB is still the best in the NFL. However clearly he has not lost anything.
#2 Rodgers - For a while I was considering dropping him but he has come on strong again and showed he is still the 2nd best. He has question marks but almost every QB does. His play this year and consistency in past years keep him rightfully here.
#3 Brees - This guy and Ben are very different players and at this point I have to say I have seen enough to say the following. Ben seems to get hurt too often but Brees doesn't. Games played is one of the most underrated stats in the NFL. I give Brees the edge due to it. Also can we get this guy a defense or anything close to it.
#4 Ben - Like him or hate him Ben Roethlisberger has been one of the best QBs for years. When 100% healthy he is arguably better than anyone not named Brady.
#5 Eli Manning - The first change on this list. Not only will Newton not be on but entirely dropped. Last year seemed to be a lightning in the bottle year and now is back with being a good but not great QB just out of the top 10. Eli has had some good statistical years and average ones lately. This year with the worst running game in the NFL and an often pissed off diva WR he has suffered a bit offensively. But every team in the NFL would be a lot happier without the Giants in the playoffs. They have good reason to be. Eli somehow or another just seems to have things work out for him in the playoffs and it is not all luck.
#6 Wilson - He has been pretty good his whole career but i have not seen him struggle like this for a while. However he seems to be healthy and turning it on again. I will give him the benefit of a doubt he has earned.
#7 Carr - The new addition to the list. No longer a 2nd year wonder. Carr can not be ignored. He clearly has what it takes to be elite. However if he wants to climb higher he must do what everyone else her has done and win a playoff game and soon a championship. This will not be his year though.
#8 Luck - Luck has shown more but shows to be inconsistent too often. This year has been up and down for him. He puts up a ton of numbers but has arguably one of the worst supporting cast 52 in the NFL. I want to see what he can do with a better team. I think it is a little of both. Some of it is him trying to do things he shouldn't and some is everyone else around him letting him down.
#9 Rivers - I have never seen a QB suffer more from STs than Rivers. However to say Rivers is not at all to blame for his failings would be highly incorrect. This year though he has the bad luck of being stuck in a very tough division but can never seem to break though to elite status and carry his team to a championship. I have seen him fail too many times when he had realistic chances not to. A QB heading towards the "Hall of Very Good" but never will he sniff the HOF.
#10 Stafford/Ryan - I put Stafford first for a reason. Right now he is barely ahead of Ryan. Seeing what he has done last year and this year without a WR like Julio Jones is very impressive. It feels like being without Calvin Johjson has allowed him to grow into a better player on the whole. Ryan on the other hand is having a great season but has too often had not great seasons for no reason really. This year he has done very well even when passing to guys not named Julio Jones. This I want to see play out more as the year goes on as Ryan has to face some harder defenses.