Online Petitions Thread

The server is down. This is starting to get on my nerves

Chiuba E. Obele said:

The server is down. This is starting to get on my nerves

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Yup it is. Figures. It was down for 5 hours yesterday. Trying to get that into my posts still.

ViperGTS said:

Yup it is. Figures. It was down for 5 hours yesterday. Trying to get that into my posts still.

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I wish I would've known about these server issues ahead of time, because now it's too late to change petition sites. People are gonna be turned away, and we might just have to live with that for now.

The flipside is that if we draw enough volume of people (and I mean lots and lots of people) it should still give us many signatures. I have already sent out over 900 tweets to individual accounts. They all won't receive my tweet at the same time. Which is good! We just have to hope that when they do show up at the site, the server is working. Whoever can sign, will sign. Whoever can't, simply will not.

How does that sound?

Chiuba E. Obele said:

I wish I would've known about these server issues ahead of time, because now it's too late to change petition sites. People are gonna be turned away, and we might just have to live with that for now.

The flipside is that if we draw enough volume of people (and I mean lots and lots of people) it should still give us many signatures. I have already sent out over 900 tweets to individual accounts. They all won't receive my tweet at the same time. Which is good! We just have to hope that when they do show up at the site, the server is working. Whoever can sign, will sign. Whoever can't, simply will not.

How does that sound?

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I doubt many people will be turned away. If they want to sign, they will come back to sign it. Jesus 900? Yikes man. I wouldn't worry too much because it is still only a day or so old. The higher we get, the more it will be exposed. I'm pretty encouraged so far for it being kept pretty quiet to build up signature. Trust me, once it hits 1k it's on like donkey kong.

Good news...it's back on!

It's back up sitting at 432.

While we are on the topic of affecting gambling, fantasy football anyone? Maybe a secondary petition to investigate on a national level? Hell, even ESPN would have to pick that up if it gained momentum. Add AP, the steelers RB, etc. Even if the suspensions seem just, last them on the premise it will help garner national support. Could even go specific with a class action suit for any paid fantasy player who had drafted AP. It's late and I've had a few, but it may be worth considering.

woolster22 said:

While we are on the topic of affecting gambling, fantasy football anyone? Maybe a secondary petition to investigate on a national level? Hell, even ESPN would have to pick that up if it gained momentum. Add AP, the steelers RB, etc. Even if the suspensions seem just, last them on the premise it will help garner national support. Could even go specific with a class action suit for any paid fantasy player who had drafted AP. It's late and I've had a few, but it may be worth considering.

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It's possible. As I've stated before this is a foot in the door type of petition. It can be broadened if and when the AG would take it under advisement. All it takes one person with the balls to take this all then way. If this picked up steam, and what I personally believe is found, the Feds will be tripping over themselves as to who gets it first.

ViperGTS said:

It's possible. As I've stated before this is a foot in the door type of petition. It can be broadened if and when the AG would take it under advisement. All it takes one person with the balls to take this all then way. If this picked up steam, and what I personally believe is found, the Feds will be tripping over themselves as to who gets it first.

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I'm just thinking "momentum" may be much quicker to come by through something available nationally. Hence the national fantasy football reach. Hell, you'd hit a large mark with keeper leagues and Ray Rice, then AP. The unnecessary uncertainty of Brady, etc.

I'd wager such a petition would gather more rapid and wide spread support under the "gambling" umbrella. Then again, fantasy football isn't considered gambling given the national availability. This could couple with a petition for on line poker...something many want but is blacklisted. Either way, it suggests many wallet threatening opportunities for the govt to hit the nfl.

woolster22 said:

I'm just thinking "momentum" may be much quicker to come by through something available nationally. Hence the national fantasy football reach. Hell, you'd hit a large mark with keeper leagues and Ray Rice, then AP. The unnecessary uncertainty of Brady, etc.

I'd wager such a petition would gather more rapid and wide spread support under the "gambling" umbrella. Then again, fantasy football isn't considered gambling given the national availability. This could couple with a petition for on line poker...something many want but is blacklisted. Either way, it suggests many wallet threatening opportunities for the govt to hit the nfl.

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Well just look at the Pats/Steelers opening night that was taken off the books because of the NFLs punishments. That affects gambling and fantasy.

Again, if the AG does take it under advisement, that is something we can bring up as another possibility. The petition is one aspect, the testimony and fact bringing is another. I for one believe the Ray Rice investigation was a fraud and the NFL a) got the tape and b) hid/destroyed it.

We don't (at least I don't) want this to go national. Not yet. Another petition will only water down both. Keep bringing ideas, it can only further help this endeavor.

@ViperGTS @eom @Dr Pain How early can we get to 1,000 signatures?

Plus, can any of you explain this:

6.5K views in last 2 days. But only a little more than 500 votes. What do you all make of that? Is that a good sign or bad?

Chiuba E. Obele said:

What do you all make of that?

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I remember how much we all used to love to hate on Sen. Arlen Specter when he stood up to Goodell on Spygate; he was on the wrong side of the issue, but he damn well got a lot of attention from the national press.

I suggest that those of you who live in MA try to get Ed Markey or Elizabeth Warren to take up the cause implied in this petition. Markey's on the Senate's Commerce and Small Business Committees and Warren is on the Banking and Labor committees, all of which could have at least a peripheral concern with the matter (these guys only need the flimsiest of excuses to hold a Hearing on anything).

Warren might well be looking to burnish her creds with blue collar voters. Standing up for the Patriots against a corrupt, multi-billion dollar enterprise might just catch her fancy.

This petition needs a social media strategy. It's own twitter handle, a FB page, etc.

betterthanthealternative said:

This petition needs a social media strategy. It's own twitter handle, a FB page, etc.

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Plan is to get ~1k then shoot it to Thornton and see what if he says. If nothing, move on our own. Don't want anyone to pick it up and make it theirs just yet.

As far as the views it wouldn't concern me. It doesn't impact everyone. I think it's good so far.

@ViperGTS

Hey guys. So it turns out I cannot send the same message several times from my twitter account. Technically, what I tried doing was considered "spamming" (even though it was non-commercial). So the 1,000+ users I tweeted over the last two days, have not even received word of our petition. Can you believe that? LOL Too bad they didn't notify me about this all along....would've saved me A LOT of time.

The good news is that I have collected the twitter contacts of hundred of #FreeBrady advocates. Although they probably have not received my messages, maybe there's still a way we can contact them?

PatsFanSince74 said:

Warren might well be looking to burnish her creds with blue collar voters. Standing up for the Patriots against a corrupt, multi-billion dollar enterprise might just catch her fancy.

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Go for it! Moonbats love government intervention. I'd love to see the NFL lose their anti-trust exemption status over this.

Not that government intervention ever solves any problem but, if it burns the NFL to the ground, I'm all for it.

Chiuba E. Obele said:

@ViperGTS

Hey guys. So it turns out I cannot send the same message several times from my twitter account. Technically, what I tried doing was considered "spamming" (even though it was non-commercial). So the 1,000+ users I tweeted over the last two days, have not even received word of our petition. Can you believe that? LOL Too bad they didn't notify me about this all along....would've saved me A LOT of time.

The good news is that, over the last couple of days, I have collected the twitter contacts of hundred of #FreeBrady advocates. Although they probably have not received my messages, maybe there's still a way we can contact them?

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This makes the rise even more impressive.

YOUGOTMOSSED said:

Not that government intervention ever solves any problem but, if it burns the NFL to the ground, I'm all for it.

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Let's see. We have this problem - can't get from here to there. How about government intervention? We can build a road that way!

Let's see. We have this problem - buildings keep burning down. Hey, how about a government fire department?

Let's see....