Official Brady Appeal Thread: D-Day Tuesday June 23rd

Good point reminding us that there are 40 potential leakers in that room. I'm still betting on some good stuff coming out later today.

SVN said:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/23/tom-brady-finally-will-break-his-silence-today/

love these lines

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I totally get this. This letter http://wellsreportcontext.com/nfl-letter-to-patriots/ from the NFL says it is 10.1 PSI and if it was it would mean it was tampered with or mismeasured at the start. NFL out and out lies

The sad thing about all this is Brady shouldnt need to have any attorneys for this -- the punishment should've been reversed as more evidence came out without the need for a hearing.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england...tom-brady-doesnt-get-appeal-result-he-desires

"The real issue here is why Roger Goodell is in position to vet out punishment and be the person who reviews his own decisions. It makes no sense. This has to do with the impotency of the players' union.

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voluntarysaftey said:

The sad thing about all this is Brady shouldnt need to have any attorneys for this -- the punishment should've been reversed as more evidence came out without the need for a hearing.

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The punishment should never have been handed out in the first place. Hell, Patsfans.com destroyed the Wells report before any punishment came out, and we're just a bunch of yahoos posting in our spare time. The NFL should have had their invested people going over that report with a fine toothed comb.

Dr Pain said:

I totally get this. This letter http://wellsreportcontext.com/nfl-letter-to-patriots/ from the NFL says it is 10.1 PSI and if it was it would mean it was tampered with or mismeasured at the start. NFL out and out lies

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Thats another lie which the nfl didnt care to address. And Ted wells was supposed to review the nfl's work too but nothing of that sort is in the report but goodell had the gall to say "wells addressed that"
The annoying part is that none of this will be brought up today because its about brady not about the report per say . If only the team had fought we wouldve got all this out in the open.

If the hearing shows that the investigator's conclusion and science was wrong, then I don't see how how Brady can be punished for not fully cooperating (by withholding private non-football communications) from someone shown to be highly biased -- it just proves that Brady not only had a right to withhold his phone, but had good cause to not trust the investigator.

Dr Pain said:

I totally get this. This letter http://wellsreportcontext.com/nfl-letter-to-patriots/ from the NFL says it is 10.1 PSI and if it was it would mean it was tampered with or mismeasured at the start. NFL out and out lies

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Will your surprise part of the case makes it's way to the public today?

Dont mess with Schefter!

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 6m6 minutes ago
NFL attorney Greg Levy spelled out in this memo the time limits placed on Brady defense team:

Kessler exposes gregie fun stuff, let the battle of the leaks begin.

voluntarysaftey said:

If the hearing shows that the investigator's conclusion and science was wrong, then I don't see how how Brady can be punished for not fully cooperating (by withholding private non-football communications) from someone shown to be highly biased -- it just proves that Brady not only had a right to withhold his phone, but had good cause to not trust the investigator.

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You're thinking logically, and strictly about one case.

Goodell won't be ruling that way.

Froob said:

Will your surprise part of the case makes it's way to the public today?

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Probably not. When if it does, will be within a week. I will tell after that. Not huge but fun a nice jab which could bring something more depending on the breaks.

patsfan13 said:

Kessler exposes gregie fun stuff, let the battle of the leaks begin.

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Brady's legal team is in the middle of the hearing. If they were the ones who leaked these letters, it was yesterday or this morning, well before the NFL put out a statement trying to refute the (apparently accurate) information contained in them. Pretty incredible that Adam Schefter had the evidence on hand to publicly demonstrate that his sources are reliable and verifiable, really.

SVN said:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/23/tom-brady-finally-will-break-his-silence-today/

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Florio has consistently and rightfully been hammering that one checkmate point that should end all debate on the subject and proves the NFL investigation was fundamentally crooked from the outset.

THIS IS THE CRUX OF THE MATTER

The NFL in TWO instances, purposefully gave out incorrect PSi measurement information to the press and privately to the Patriots:

1) The leak to Mort

2) the official letter to the Patriots

Both were instances where the NFL knew full well what the measurements were, yet disseminated misinformation. The fact that the NFL never corrected either of these misinformation episodes makes it

You do NOT knowingly give out misinformation to the subjects of an investigation and leak that to the press. Game. Set. Match.

Any court in America could clearly see that the "investigation" was a frameup simply based on that clear truth.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tom-brady-four-hours-to-make-his-appeal-case/

League spokesman Greg Aiello tweets to us that there is no strict four-hour time limit, and that Brady’s presentation is expected to go beyond that mark.

Perhaps 11 of the 12 clocks at ESPN were mistaken.

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hahaha

Ugh merging all the threads is annoying....I click on a merged thread and am brought to post number 1 here, no idea where the thread I'm interested in is. For goodness' sake.

smurfalarm said:

Brady's legal team is in the middle of the hearing. If they were the ones who leaked these letters, it was yesterday or this morning, well before the NFL put out a statement trying to refute the (apparently accurate) information contained in them. Pretty incredible that Adam Schefter had the evidence on hand to publicly demonstrate that his sources are reliable and verifiable, really.

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Can you imagine being the judge/appellate arbiter who finds out that the NFL lied about the amount of time they were giving the defense? Even if the time is considered acceptable by the appellate body, they'll already know that the league can't even be honest about procedure.

To quote Mr. Benigno:

"What a disaster"

shmessy said:

THAT is crux of the matter!!!!!!

The NFL in TWO instances, purposefully gave out incorrect PSi measurement information to the press and privately to the Patriots:

1) The leak to Mort

2) the official letter to the Patriots

Both were instances where the NFL knew full well what the measurements were, yet disseminated misinformation.

Game. Set. Match.

Any court in America could clearly see that the "investigation" was a frameup simply based on that clear truth.

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Yes but those matter if the team fights. Brady's defense is only lumited to the science and him explaining the texts. What all crap nfl did will come if a defamation or some other suit is filed I think.Of course I have not much idea of legal stuff so Iam most likely off.

Funny that Wells gets 7 hours with McNally but Brady only gets 4 on his own appeal. 5 on good behavior.

Apparently they will be breaking for lunch, which is provided. Wonder if 39 other people will be waiting for Herr Goodell to get his fork out first. If Brady goes to his fork first, that's another 4 games added on.

Hope Kessler prepped him on Goody lunch etiquette.