Hurley: Roger Goodell just referenced a case when he was ruled to have been a liar.

Michael Hurley‏@michaelFhurley13m13 minutes ago
I wrote about Roger again. This one's about the time he tried to scapegoat the bad guy as a liar. It blew up on him. http://cbsloc.al/1AKjwpS

Hurley: One More Thought On Roger Goodell's Pledge Of 'Integrity'
In a letter intended to bolster his own integrity, Roger Goodell referenced a case when he was ruled to have been a liar.

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...Judge Jones then hammered home the point: Rice did not mislead the NFL or the commissioner, and the commissioner’s claims that Rice lied about the incident have no basis.

(Goodell) was the one who, in a letter intended to praise his own integrity as well as the league’s, referenced this appeal. And it was in this appeal when he saw strong public opinion going against a suspended player and used it as an opportunity to paint that player as a liar.

And here’s one last important distinction: This all came after Goodell’s fake mea culpa.

This all came after Goodell said “I got it wrong” and wrote to all 32 NFL teams about the ways he failed in his initial discipline of Rice.

This was after he said, “My commitment has always been to do what is right and to protect the integrity of the game.”

The lies came after he wrote, “Our mission has been to create and sustain model workplaces filled with people of character. Although the NFL is celebrated for what happens on the field, we must be equally vigilant in what we do off the field.”

This came after he declared, “Simply put, we have to do better. And we will.”

He did not. Instead, he lied. He tried to scapegoat the bad guy, bolstering his own public image in the process. And it blew up in his face, and it’s there, written in plain English by Judge Jones for the world to see. And thanks to Goodell’s reference to it on Tuesday, it’s now fresh on all of our minds.

“With very few exceptions,” Goodell wrote in that late August letter to teams, “NFL personnel conduct themselves in an exemplary way.”

On this, Roger would agree. The man is always the exception.

Roger Goodell was more than "generally aware of " the fact that Ray Rice's lawyer was in possession of the elevator tape that showed what actually happened on that elevator as his lawyer had to be provided with it to defend him. He has no valid excuse for not doing due diligence before handing down his lame punishment for that incident. He has no excuse other than his own incompetence.

The problem is anytime I open these type of threads I know the author will be Boston based. And if that's the case no one gives a F. So it doesn't help our cause, sad but true

Brady2Moss said:

The problem is anytime I open these type of threads I know the author will be Boston based. And if that's the case no one gives a F. So it doesn't help our cause, sad but true

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It's about Goodell...........that stretches nationwide.

Clonamery said:

It's about Goodell...........that stretches nationwide.

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It's a goodell piece written by a Boston guy. No one cares outside this region, it'll be ignored like everything else that is even slightly pro patriot.

Brady2Moss said:

It's a goodell piece written by a Boston guy. No one cares outside this region, it'll be ignored like everything else that is even slightly pro patriot.

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Okay. A lot of people outside of New England don't see his value that the 32 see.........just sayin'.

Clonamery said:

Okay. A lot of people outside of New England don't see his value that the 32 see.........just sayin'.

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Yeah that's obvious. However, These articles are irrelevant because they're written by small timers that no one reads.

What needs to happen is a "neutral reporter" from a large circulating newspaper to put all this together into something meaningful, and integrate things like "Bounty Gate", Jets getting a small fine for tampering, San Diego getting a slap on the wrist for putting stickum on towels and Minnesota getting a warning for warming balls..

That article needs to bring all these things together, to show the unfairness of Goodell and how much power he really has... along with the unfair justice system of the nfl.. it also need to show all the NYJ and NYG connections to Goodell and his krew..

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Michael Hurley‏@michaelFhurley13m13 minutes ago
I wrote about Roger again. This one's about the time he tried to scapegoat the bad guy as a liar. It blew up on him. http://cbsloc.al/1AKjwpS

Hurley: One More Thought On Roger Goodell's Pledge Of 'Integrity'
In a letter intended to bolster his own integrity, Roger Goodell referenced a case when he was ruled to have been a liar.

Excerpts from tail:

...Judge Jones then hammered home the point: Rice did not mislead the NFL or the commissioner, and the commissioner’s claims that Rice lied about the incident have no basis.

(Goodell) was the one who, in a letter intended to praise his own integrity as well as the league’s, referenced this appeal. And it was in this appeal when he saw strong public opinion going against a suspended player and used it as an opportunity to paint that player as a liar.

And here’s one last important distinction: This all came after Goodell’s fake mea culpa.

This all came after Goodell said “I got it wrong” and wrote to all 32 NFL teams about the ways he failed in his initial discipline of Rice.

This was after he said, “My commitment has always been to do what is right and to protect the integrity of the game.”

The lies came after he wrote, “Our mission has been to create and sustain model workplaces filled with people of character. Although the NFL is celebrated for what happens on the field, we must be equally vigilant in what we do off the field.”

This came after he declared, “Simply put, we have to do better. And we will.”

He did not. Instead, he lied. He tried to scapegoat the bad guy, bolstering his own public image in the process. And it blew up in his face, and it’s there, written in plain English by Judge Jones for the world to see. And thanks to Goodell’s reference to it on Tuesday, it’s now fresh on all of our minds.

“With very few exceptions,” Goodell wrote in that late August letter to teams, “NFL personnel conduct themselves in an exemplary way.”

On this, Roger would agree. The man is always the exception.

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It should be pointed out:
1) The judge's findings came after BOTH SIDES presented their cases
2) The judge has at least equal authority to Ted Wells, but most would agree greater
3) Being judged to have definitely lied would seem a greater crime than more probably than not having a general awareness of something that more probably than not happened.

Why isn't Goodell suspending himself?

Yes, but the "independent" Mueller Report exonerated of everything else Goodell did wrong.

I love how Goodell still touts that report as a success because it did expose everything that he was already caught doing by Judge Jones and others and said there was no evidence of other things everyone knows that he and his office were guilty of, but no one could prove.

Don't know if this has been mentioned in another thread, but check out this comment on another website regarding the testing done in the Wells report. It appears that the testing data is too precise and doesn't follow the normal distribution based on human error and instrument error. Is it possible that the data was massaged to get the result Wells, et. al. wanted?

http://emailwagon.blogspot.com/2015/05/how-i-trashed-wells-report-from-swan.html

Mark Daniel May 28, 2015 at 11:06 AM

Nice analysis. I think one thing that is highly suspicious in the Wells Report is the section on p. 26 of the Exponent part, "The Effect of Human Factors on Gauge Accuracy".
The conclusion is that human error does not exist (last paragraph of section).

The come to this conclusion by taking 11 balls, setting them all to the exact same pressure (as determined by the Master Gauge), and then having 5 different people measure the pressure of each ball using the non-Logo gauge. They reset the pressure of each ball between measurements.

Now, the standard deviation of the non-Logo gauge was determined to be around 0.12 psi (see Fig. 8 of Wells report). So whatever average pressure reading these test balls gives, the result should be mean +/- standard deviation. In this case the SD is 0.12, so the result should be mean +/- SD.

However, this is the conclusion of the Wells report:
"All of the readings generated by all five individuals and all 11 footballs were within 0.05 psig of each other, which is equivalent to the reading resolution of the Non-Logo Gauge (as well as the Logo Gauge)."

In short, the Wells' report experiment was able to produce 55 readings on 11 balls done by 5 different people, and each reading was within 0.05 psi of each other.
How can this be when the equipment used in the test did not have that kind of precision?
Remember that standard deviation has this rule:
68.2% of readings are within 1 SD
95% of readings are within 2 SD
99.7% of readings are within 3 SD.

Thus, with 55 readings, you would expect the following distribution:
38 balls within 1 SD (+/- 0.12 psi)
15 balls within 1 and 2 SD (between +/- 0.12 and 0.24 psi)
2 balls within 3 SD (between +/- 0.24psi and 0.36 psi).

Remember these ranges are +/-, so +/- 0.12 means the readings have a range of 0.24 psi. But the Wells report states that their 55 readings are all within 0.05 psi. This is impossible. I don't know how they were able to obtain such perfect data.

You can reverse estimate the SD of the data the Wells report produced. Essentially, they came to a mean +/- 0.025 psi (range of 0.05 psi). If you assume that at least 1 or 2 balls are within 3 SD, then you can divide that 0.025 psi by 3 and get a SD of 0.008 psi. If you want to be conservative and say that by chance all 55 readings were within 2 SD, then you can drop the estimated SD fo 0.0125 psi.

Somehow, using a gauge that has an SD of 0.12 (from their own calculation), they were able to obtain readings on 55 balls with an SD of, at worst, 0.0125 psi. It appears that suddenly, when testing for human error, not only was human error non-existent, the gauge precision increased 10-fold.

Can anyone explain this?

Hurley is ruthless....

Great writer

DarrylS said:

What needs to happen is a "neutral reporter" from a large circulating newspaper to put all this together into something meaningful, and integrate things like "Bounty Gate", Jets getting a small fine for tampering, San Diego getting a slap on the wrist for putting stickum on towels and Minnesota getting a warning for warming balls..

That article needs to bring all these things together, to show the unfairness of Goodell and how much power he really has... along with the unfair justice system of the nfl.. it also need to show all the NYJ and NYG connections to Goodell and his krew..

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That will happen once Goodell gets bent over in court. After that happens, there will be both publicity surrounding the issue and a fascinating narrative that's supported by a court's conclusion. If/when Brady kicks his ass in court, you can expect the floodgates on the "wow, Goodell really is an incompetent egomaniac" articles to open.

AzorianPats said:

Hurley is ruthless....

Great writer

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He has been very good with this story. I don't think I read him before he took apart that ridiculous SI story about the Patriots "cheating ways" (the one where the SI writer claimed the big screen outside the CBS Scene restaurant gave the Patriots an unfair advantage.) I know people have said he'll be dismissed because he's a local writer, but where is he off base with this latest article? What over-the-top homer stance has he taken that you would see in say, a Gregg Doyel article?

AndyJohnson said:

It should be pointed out:
1) The judge's findings came after BOTH SIDES presented their cases
2) The judge has at least equal authority to Ted Wells, but most would agree greater
3) Being judged to have definitely lied would seem a greater crime than more probably than not having a general awareness of something that more probably than not happened.

Why isn't Goodell suspending himself?

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I believe that Matt Chatham pointed out that, when Goodell revamped the personal conduct policy, he made it applicable everyone in the NFL, including himself. If is found to be engaging in conduct detrimental to the game, he should be subject to league discipline.

Then again, for all we know, Goodell has suspended himself, heard his own appeal, and rescinded his suspension already.

The NFL a.k.a Goodell will hear all this evidence before declaring that nothing has changed and Brady suspension is upheld. Nothing will be change Goodell's original ruling unless this is brought to court. This is all a charade for the rest of the country to show fairness!

It will be up to the real legal system to impose justice!

Thanks again Mr. Kraft, we so trust you to do the right thing!